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30$ spins. Raise vs iso or keep limper in? 30$ spins. Raise vs iso or keep limper in?

05-04-2016 , 11:30 AM
Should we be flatting A A and K K here even if sb iso ranges tend to be fairly strong, just to keep a fish on the button in the pot? Any other slowplays besides A A and K K? Q Q?

PokerStars - $28.20+$1.80|10/20 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 500
BTN: 520 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 26)
SB: 480 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 10, Hero posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Hero has K K

BTN calls 20, SB raises to 60
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05-05-2016 , 03:47 PM
TBH i think u should make a thread instead of making lots of posts like this , if everyone does the same and there are 50 players per day in the 7s or 30s making 20 posts this part of the forum would be an absolute mess
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05-05-2016 , 03:49 PM
Prolly better the forum should create
7$-15$-30$-60$-100$ SPIN HAND DISCUSSION
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05-05-2016 , 04:18 PM
Ive seen other people also post more than 3 threads a day and I dont think I post such beginner posts that people would get annoyed with them.
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05-05-2016 , 09:54 PM
People are allowed to post threads dude, it's not like this forum is overrun with traffic.
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05-06-2016 , 01:52 AM
Clear ISO. Fish call light remember? And they open-fold button a lot, so once they limp they have something and that something often calls. Also, ISO squeezing frequencies for most players are fairly low--maybe you could trap if BB has some known very high 3-way iso strategy or something but that is likely rare.

So yeah, just ISO to get value, get paid
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05-06-2016 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
Clear ISO. Fish call light remember? And they open-fold button a lot, so once they limp they have something and that something often calls. Also, ISO squeezing frequencies for most players are fairly low--maybe you could trap if BB has some known very high 3-way iso strategy or something but that is likely rare.

So yeah, just ISO to get value, get paid
You probably didnt notice that sb already isod the btn limper and Im wondering whether to flat instead if 3b to keep the likely fishy player in and with maybe even Q Q, J J also?
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05-06-2016 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyha Karu
You probably didnt notice that sb already isod the btn limper and Im wondering whether to flat instead if 3b to keep the likely fishy player in and with maybe even Q Q, J J also?
Oh my bad Damn not reading hands well

In that case EV should run close. Might still be better to do some inducing value play like min 3betting--that way we can try to keep BU in, SB can shove over, BU can call/call, lots of good value things can happen--while at the same time SB is extremely unlikely to fold to an iso.

Because BU isn't super likely to be limp/shoving after we flat the iso we will still be better 4b with all of our pocket pairs. There's definitely some room to think about flatting in the case of limp/shove tendency reads--QQ+ seems like the right range in that situation.
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05-06-2016 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
Oh my bad Damn not reading hands well

In that case EV should run close. Might still be better to do some inducing value play like min 3betting--that way we can try to keep BU in, SB can shove over, BU can call/call, lots of good value things can happen--while at the same time SB is extremely unlikely to fold to an iso.

Because BU isn't super likely to be limp/shoving after we flat the iso we will still be better 4b with all of our pocket pairs. There's definitely some room to think about flatting in the case of limp/shove tendency reads--QQ+ seems like the right range in that situation.
The clickback 4b seems pretty cool. By "all our pocket pairs" I assume you dont mean the smallest pocket pairs, since the iso ranges are pretty strong indeed.
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