I actually had good experience most regs played a while and even wanted more tables

Yeah, division's members seem to act ok imo. In most cases, against me, they have played > 30min and accepting 2-tabling often. But I'm just random fish, so maybe that's the reason

It is fine guys. Give it time.

U know i wont mention any names but theres a 100$ reg i have marked as weak reg and i remember to sat him some months ago and he declined
(had not idea who he was at the time) now because he probably knows hes getting 3 cartels to help he feels really happy to sit 30$ reg because he knows these guys have no interest in playing him

This has a name : COWARD

And yes if games would count i would love to play him and show the ev graph

Yeah, i agree, games vs higher division members should count towards EV requirements for getting in, not just at $30s but at $60s and $100s too. I think a lot of regs feel entitled to not get sat at their lower stakes, which is misguided IMO. If they can't play well at the lower stakes due to too many tables (and/or not caring enough about the lower stakes) then why should the regs of that stake share with them?

To clarify I mean games against a $60s division member at $30s should count towards getting into $30s. I don't think having it count towards getting into $60s makes sense since players will play worse at their lower stakes.

May not be a big deal, but what would happen if applicants have a negative ev-roi vs. $60 regs? Will that also influence the decision? Or will it be treated as sort of a freeroll (as in if you acquire positive stats in the games, they are used, otherwise ignored)

Does anyone using hem2 know how to make a group vs players in the division so I can check Ev? (Can only seem to compare vs one in my experience of mashing buttons)

Cheers.

I read on other platforms that people are leaving the Division and instead playing 15$ or playing complete different formats.
You should definitely come up with an extended Version of the 30$ Division within the next days.
the other guys mentioned already that WL do not exist or there are 5 people in the queue. That cannot be the goal from your Division.
Additionally the players who want to get in have to fight for a member from the Division to play against.
We definitely need some changes. The only guys who profit from this Situation are the 60$ and 100$ divison members.

7$ cartel in 3. 2. 1.......

you create division and ask 60s to help you clear lobbies and at the same time play 15s. that looks beautiful

Fish open sitting for ages while division grinds 15s. Have you set up your sharky to snap sit everyone who isn't in division or is your playerpool far to small?

there will be changes in division members very soon. many of the deserving players will get in.

also, many people who should've been in, weren't in from the beginning. But many of them actually started playing, and obviously at the start , there will be some weak people, and also the addition will happen on the fly, because people quit etc. So all it took was playing just some regs, and in the proccess, the people who were initially outside probably played more fish overall, due to queues and activity of division members.
But many also took it very personally, started talking "too much" etc, and let me tell you, I first felt bad for people that were left out, and I still do, so if I play you and you are not bad, I'm very likely to vouch for you, because I actually want you to get in, but if you start sit/declining, talking bad in chat etc, then obv I stop feeling like i should vouch for you in division. So this is my advice - start playing and instead of talking and worrying, focus on playing and right now you might be in in no time.

Anyone wants to prop bet on $15 and $7 cartels launching off by the end of this year?

Probably too few 200/300 division members to clear those lobbies...

If you're serious about this let me know, I'm up to put a bit on them not launching at evens

Oh yeah, I was serious. How about $50 on $15 cartels launching by the end of 2014?

I'd like to take you up on it. My 50$ says no 15$ division in 2014. Am spilveni on PS/FTP.

Booked

I'd like to put my 50$ too if you want, I say there will be no 15$ division this year!

in before mela starts a 15$ division

Dude, don't reveal my secret strategy!

Booked

Can't believe I actually read all 200+ posts ITT. I don't play hypers anymore and am not qualified to say much about this, but oh dear, I'm sad to see this happening.

Good luck to those who are in the cartel, or trying to break into it, though!

2:1 on it no happening anytime in 2014 (my 200 vs your 100), quote to book