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03-08-2017 , 11:53 PM

ficilan

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PokerStars - 15/30 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 18 BB (VPIP: 85.71, PFR: 57.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (SB): 15.33 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A

Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB raises to 3 BB

call or jam?

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03-10-2017 , 01:24 PM

Alladin

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Flat

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03-11-2017 , 11:08 AM

supersplitz

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What kind of a HUD are you using? If you're playing hypers it might be wise to invest in a specific HUD for HU play so you could get a more detailed breakdown of stats. Makes a big difference imo.

This is an easy flat. I don't think it'd even be a profitable shove vs a readless NAI iso range and in my database I have a -55bb/100 expectation for flatting A2o-A7o (granted it's not the biggest sample) for 12-20bb effective, whereas folding would be -100bb/100.

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03-15-2017 , 05:55 AM

Okerchamp

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is openshoving much worse than limp/flat ?

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03-17-2017 , 09:15 AM

biblup

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Excuse me for the offtopic, but what does NAI mean?

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03-17-2017 , 09:54 AM

leuboyaz

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non-all-in

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03-17-2017 , 10:27 AM

biblup

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Thank you!

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03-17-2017 , 12:51 PM

coffeeyay

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Originally Posted by Okerchamp

is openshoving much worse than limp/flat ?

no, but it is worse read-less...

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03-17-2017 , 07:32 PM

trent32la

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I'm not very experienced HUSNGs, so can someone explain why limp/flatting here is best? A2o is going to play terrible postflop and our SPR going to the flop will be just 2, if an ace flops we can still be outkicked easily.

I would think shoving preflop here >>>> limp/flatting as A2o plays bad postflop and open shoving is +EV regardless.

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03-18-2017 , 03:52 AM

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Duncelanas

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Originally Posted by trent32la

II would think shoving preflop here >>>> limp/flatting as A2o plays bad postflop and open shoving is +EV regardless.

Do you mean limp/shoving pre would be >>> or are you talking about open shoving pre?

After isoing pre villain's range isn't close to 100% at all; jamming likely isn't good vs a readless iso range here.

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03-18-2017 , 07:32 AM

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trent32la

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Originally Posted by Duncelanas

I am talking about open shoving preflop.

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03-18-2017 , 11:36 AM

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Duncelanas

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Originally Posted by trent32la

I am talking about open shoving preflop.

We would definitely rather limp. You're fixating on the times we get iso'd and not considering limp/checks at all.

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