Played 4 matches against this crazy villain with stats 95/36 and 20% 3bet over 175 hands. His skill can be seen from a hand from the first match:


Poker Stars $10.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BTN/SB: t1240 62 BBs
Hero (BB): t1760 88 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with A A
BTN/SB calls t10, Hero raises to t60, BTN/SB raises to t160, Hero raises to t340, BTN/SB raises to t740, Hero raises to t1760 all in, BTN/SB calls t500 all in

Flop: (t2480) 2 4 J (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t2480) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t2480) T (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t2480
BTN/SB shows 7 4 (a flush, Queen high)
Hero shows A A (a pair of Aces)
BTN/SB wins t2480

He also played a hand from another match like this:


Poker Stars $10.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
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BTN/SB: t1190 39.67 BBs
Hero (BB): t1810 60.33 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with 2 J
BTN/SB calls t15, Hero checks

Flop: (t60) J J 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t30, Hero raises to t120, BTN/SB calls t90

Turn: (t300) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets t180, BTN/SB calls t180

River: (t660) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t270, BTN/SB raises to t690, Hero raises to t1480 all in, BTN/SB calls t170 all in

Final Pot: t2380
BTN/SB shows J 9 (a full house, Jacks full of Nines)
Hero shows 2 J (three of a kind, Jacks)
BTN/SB wins t2380


Now I have a question about my strong hand from the last match. Should I check the turn and control the pot? As played am I suppose to fold this turn?



Poker Stars $10.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t1080 54 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1920 96 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with K A
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) A 7 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80

Turn: (t280) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t160, BB raises to t540, Hero folds

last hand b/f turn is fine. sometimes i mix in ck'ing back.

ur J2o hand; turn play is fine but pllllllllllllease dont b/3b rivers vs villains like this. just flat is raise. also, note how strong his line is there.

Sorry but cant see how flatting is more EV+ than shoving Especially against a villian like that(see the first hand)

As for the main hand - I would strongly suggest 2barreling abit more. atleast 180. Your 2b looks abit weak. He might have thought the same.

And remember this is 10$. I cant fold it there vs a villian like that with the information given. To me it looks like he is trying to overrepresent an 8 with a raise like that.

big difference between first hand which is villain pricing themselves into a call with a bad bluff and the rest of the hands which are post flop DUCY? EV=wins-losses thus part of increasing EV is losing the least. What is calling a shove that we beat? Make sense?


jayluf is right on all accounts which is why nobody else has bothered to respond

Difference in the hands you say? How does that matter?
What I mean by looking at the first hand is that we can see the mentality of the Villian. Unless ofcourse you dont want to take that into count(which is just silly). Preflop or river - that does not matter. What matters is that the villian has a tendency to make silly bluffs.
but i am Inclined to agree now that 3bet shoving is worse than just calling. I can see that now that I look back at it.


and oh please count me a nobody by all means, if you find that polite
I don't.

villain has 170 left.

good point. not sure if it matters tho

You are not a nobody, you are THE DUDE!!! ; )

in few minutes i won't see this thread. sweet

Against someone who looks like they would call with any piece of the flop, I would check it back. My thought is this, you definitely have a strong enough hand that you want to show it down. But you were obviously planning to fold to a raise and you lose that option of being able to show it down. You beat all but one ace, but you allow yourself to get bluffed off a winner.

My comment is colored by the fact that I abhor bet/folding in most circumstances.

Ah, don't be a nit.

Would he really 3bet you so big with an 8? He slowplayed his nutz once before.

I not sure about checking back this turn. A couple of you mentioned you would take this line. Imo this is wrong. Sure min your loses is a fair argument, but you are getting so much value out of 7x,Ax and str8 draws.

I would be unsurprised to see even complete air here a modest percent of the time. Villain's hand doesn't have to make sense.

You're right I went through our HH some more and he did slowplay nutz often. I still don't know what he would call me with on flop and then make a raise that big on turn

Ax (he is def stacking here with Ax), 7x, pp would be my best guess. Add some str8 combos and thats about it.

It's pos he is making a play so I would just call to give him the chance to stack off on river. Obv I'm calling all rivers.