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02-09-2011 , 12:19 AM

chiefrocker

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 66

Villan has been very aggressive so far, that is the reason i did not raise pre-flop. My plan was to just call him down....but then he made the big river bet

If I remember correctly he made some pot sized bets before but he has not overbet the pot.
Do I pretty much need to call here???

thanks

Poker Stars $10.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BB: t1258 62.90 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1742 87.10 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 8

Hero calls t10, BB raises to t88, Hero calls t68

Flop: (t176) Q

(2 players)
BB bets t77, Hero calls t77

Turn: (t330) 2

(2 players)
BB bets t66, Hero calls t66

River: (t462) A

(2 players)
BB bets t777, Hero folds

Spoiler:

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02-09-2011 , 12:23 AM

jackxer

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 806

with the lack of specific reads on whether or not he barrels scare cards, i think this has to be a fold.

that being said, going in with eights and calling down despite overcards is a bad idea. there is absolutely no reason to limp eights in position if youre going to play it the way you did.

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02-09-2011 , 02:42 AM

reallymonkeyish

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 570

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Originally Posted by chiefrocker

Villan has been very aggressive so far, that is the reason i did not raise pre-flop. My plan was to just call him down....but then he made the big river bet

If I remember correctly he made some pot sized bets before but he has not overbet the pot.

omg going to be really really hard to turn down the snark here.

OP: 88 is the nuts vs. an aggro villain. 3x preflop and shove over his 3bet. Print $$$$$$. /thread

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02-09-2011 , 03:17 AM

FlakDet

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 198

Why didn't you re-raise on the flop to 255 or something like that?
If he called,then shove on the turn.

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02-09-2011 , 05:53 AM

Stephen730

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Fold river and wish you had done what reallymonkeyish said.

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02-09-2011 , 07:08 AM

MechanicalBoy

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Originally Posted by jackxer

pretty much this

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02-09-2011 , 07:18 AM

Polycarpus

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agreeing with all of above except for OP

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02-09-2011 , 09:14 AM

Slangenkind

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Yeah, gotta raise/4b the 88 dude. You're miles ahead.

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02-09-2011 , 10:14 AM

chiefrocker

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Thanks everyone

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02-09-2011 , 11:35 PM

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NittyDonk

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 425

What´s the best option.

limp/shove or limp/raise?

limp shoving is definitely easier to play if hes monkey aggro, I mean, the call 4bet shove flop type.

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02-10-2011 , 12:11 AM

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reallymonkeyish

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Originally Posted by NittyDonk

What´s the best option.

limp/shove or limp/raise?

limp shoving is definitely easier to play if hes monkey aggro, I mean, the call 4bet shove flop type.

We want him to call the 4bet shove.

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02-10-2011 , 02:02 AM

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NittyDonk

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 425

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Originally Posted by reallymonkeyish

We want him to call the 4bet shove.

There was a missing comma there, I meant "call 4bet raise, and shoves flop".

Sure we want him to call 4bet shove.

But let´s say he´s the type of donk who wants to outplay you all the time, so if you shove he knows he´s behind and he folds, but if you raise him to like 450 he just calls. If the flop brings two broadway cards it´s already a bit difficult to make the call if he open shoves flop.

I usually just limp shove because I wanna avoid a decision for all the chips on a bad flop. don´t know if it´s the most +ev decision. It´s certainly the one where you make less mistakes.

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