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Allen Kessler WSOP package. Read carefully. Allen Kessler WSOP package. Read carefully.

05-16-2017 , 10:10 PM
I will have action available for the 2017 WSOP.

Over the past 7 years at the wsop I've made 4 final tables, 3 of which were in championship events with elite fields; and have cashed 40 times for over $800,000

I usually take about 30-40% of my own action and sell the rest at markup.

I'm looking to find one investor, or a single investment group to scoop up the entire package. It's much easier record keeping and logistically that way.

If I don't find that type of deal I will sell shares of the entire package to individuals until I get to a percentage for myself that I'm comfortable with.

Below is my wsop schedule for 2017.

I'm not playing more than one event at a time.

I may skip some noon events that are same day as $10k championships.

Below is a summary of my past 7 years wsop results since I began playing a full schedule.

Results are volatile. Payouts are topheavy and last 2 years I've had several deep runs but no big breakthrough cashes.

2016 6 cashes total $23,804
2015 8 cashes total $34,423
2014 5 cashes 1 final table ($50k poker players championship) total $154,056
2013 3 cashes total $12,212
2012 6 cashes total $49,691
2011 3 cashes 2 final tables ($1500 plh, $5k plo8) total $178,155
2010 9 cashes 1 final table ($10k stud 8) total $376,480

Past 7 years 40 cashes 4 final tables over $800,000 in cashes.

Markup is a flat 1.2. This includes all the high value no limits AND also the main event.

Last year some requested just a mixed event package and I can split those events into a single package as well.

There are over 40 events listed, but due to overlap of making day twos, or skipping certain events to play a $10k championship; I usually end up playing around 30 events.

The total is over $150k in buyins but based on past experience should be around $100k.

The* $50k 8 game is not included and would be sold at par if I play this year.

I require a $5k deposit pre wsop from each investor for each 5% share they would like. Investors can buy any amount 5% or higher.

If you have interest in the entire package or a percentage of the entire package please comment below or message me privately.

No investor is confirmed until I post that they are in. I retain the option to sell all the action to a single investor at any time before the wsop starts.

WSOP 2017 schedule:

5/31 3pm $2500 1/4 in $10k nolimit tag team
6/1** 3pm $1500 Omaha 8
6/2** 10am/4pm $565 colossus nolimit
6/3** 10am $565 colossus
6/3*** 3pm $2500 mixed triple draw
6/4*** 3pm $10k omaha 8
6/5*** 11am $500 1/2 in $1000 tag team
6/5*** 3pm $1500 dealers choice
6/6*** 11am $1500 nolimit
6/7*** 11am $1500 horse
6/8*** 11am $1500 6max nolimit
6/8*** 3pm $10k dealers choice
6/9*** 11am $565 plo (up to 2 bullets)
6/9*** 4pm $565 plo (up to 2 bullets)
6/9*** 7pm $365 "The Giant"
6/10* 10am $1500 millionaire maker nolimit
6/10** 3pm $1500 8 game mix
6/11** 10am $1500 millionaire maker nolimit
6/12** 11am $2620 marathon nolimit
6/12*** 3pm $1500 limit holdem
6/13*** 11am $1k plo
6/13*** 3pm $10k razz
6/14*** 3pm $1500 2-7 triple draw
6/15*** 11am $2500 nolimit
6/15*** 3pm $10k horse
6/16*** 3pm $1500 Omaha 8, plo8, big o mix
6/16*** 7pm $365 "The Giant"
6/17** 11am $1500 nolimit
6/17** 3pm $10k 2-7 triple draw
6/18** OFF DAY
6/19** 11am $1000 nolimit
6/20** 3pm $1500 stud 8
6/21** 11am $1500 PLO
6/22** 11am $1500 nolimit shootout
6/22** 3pm $3000 horse
6/23** 3pm $1500 plo8
6/23** 7pm $365 "The Giant"
6/24** 3pm $10k stud 8
6/25** 10am $1500 monster stack
6/26** 11am $1500 nolimit bounty
6/26*** 3pm $10k plo8
6/27*** 11am $1500 nolimit
6/28*** 3pm $1500 stud
6/29*** 3pm $2500 o8/stud 8
6/30*** 11am $1500 nolimit
6/30*** 3pm $2500 big bet mixed event
6/30*** 7pm $365 "The Giant"
7/1***** 10am $888 nolimit
7/1****** 4pm $888 nolimit
7/2****** 10am $888 nolimit
7/2****** 3pm $50k players championship
7/2****** 4pm $888 nolimit
7/3****** 11am $1k $1000 nolimit
7/3******* 3pm $1500 nl/plo mix
7/4****** 11am $1000 nolimit
7/5****** 11am $1500 nolimit
7/6******* 11am $3000 nolimit
7/6******** 3pm $1500 razz
7/7******** 3pm $10k stud
7/7******** 7pm "The Giant"
7/8******** $10k main event
7/11****** $1,111 little one drop
7/12****** $1,111 little one drop
7/13 $1,111 little one drop

Last edited by doublejoker; 05-16-2017 at 10:31 PM.
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05-17-2017 , 12:38 AM
Very interested. You have a massive sample size. Can you please post ROI so we can negotiate markup?
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05-17-2017 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gus1112
Very interested. You have a massive sample size. Can you please post ROI so we can negotiate markup?


Theres no negotiation. Thats the set markup. Its very fair. All relevant info posted above.
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05-17-2017 , 01:03 AM
aren't buyins and cashouts relevant in tournaments? I only play cash so I'm not sure but I can show you my buy ins and cash outs for cash games so I'd presume tournaments are the same or am I missing something?
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05-17-2017 , 11:53 AM
Maybe post teammates in the 10k tag team or remove it from the package. Seems like relevant info
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05-17-2017 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gostatego
Maybe post teammates in the 10k tag team or remove it from the package. Seems like relevant info


I would but havent finalized teams yet.
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05-18-2017 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker

Over the past 7 years at the wsop I've made 4 final tables, 3 of which were in championship events with elite fields; and have cashed 40 times for over $800,000


Past 7 years 40 cashes 4 final tables over $800,000 in cashes.

Markup is a flat 1.2. This includes all the high value no limits AND also the main event.



The total is over $150k in buyins but based on past experience should be around $100k.
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Theres no negotiation. Thats the set markup. Its very fair. All relevant info posted above.
I am not a expert but this in fact does not seem fair
you "average 100k in buy ins per year"
you have grossed 800k with according to you 700k in buy ins
seems to me that this is way over priced at 1.2 unless I am missing something
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05-18-2017 , 12:13 PM
I think several of previous posters are been unfair to Allen (I say it as one of the bigger buyers in the Marketplace in recent years). If the player was deceptive about the markup or was untrustworthy - that would be another story. Here, the issue at stake is whether the markup is too high for the player's edge over the field. There are plenty of packages in this marketplace that are more than -25% -EV at face value. If you do not like them, do not buy them.
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05-18-2017 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AALegend
I think several of previous posters are been unfair to Allen (I say it as one of the bigger buyers in the Marketplace in recent years). If the player was deceptive about the markup or was untrustworthy - that would be another story. Here, the issue at stake is whether the markup is too high for the player's edge over the field. There are plenty of packages in this marketplace that are more than -25% -EV at face value. If you do not like them, do not buy them.
I get the same trolls every year. If people want to invest, message me.
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05-18-2017 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
I get the same trolls every year. If people want to invest, message me.
TROLLS? if you played this exact buyins and tournaments or anything similar over the past 7 years you would have lost every year except one. so the posters are not trolling they want clarification on justification of 1.2 markup.
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05-18-2017 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bat
TROLLS? if you played this exact buyins and tournaments or anything similar over the past 7 years you would have lost every year except one. so the posters are not trolling they want clarification on justification of 1.2 markup.


I didnt play 100k buyins all those years.
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05-18-2017 , 05:48 PM
You are in a unique situation in that you are a highly opinionated public figure who happens to have a massive live sample. Calling anyone trolls who ask for data doesn't make sense. Show us the data, maybe you are worth even more!
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05-18-2017 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gus1112
You are in a unique situation in that you are a highly opinionated public figure who happens to have a massive live sample. Calling anyone trolls who ask for data doesn't make sense. Show us the data, maybe you are worth even more!


Ive already provided way more data than most on this forum. My hendon mob and wikipedia are public record if you need more information.
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05-18-2017 , 06:29 PM
Hendon Mob and Wikipedia don't track your buy ins unfortunately.
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05-18-2017 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Two SHAE
Hendon Mob and Wikipedia don't track your buy ins unfortunately.
+1

Both are useless tools now. And no one here is trolling you. Im a regular investor and every single time someone posts a package with some "good value" tournaments that are 565s and says its a good deal because its only 1.2 but then charges the same MU for a 10k they're likely losing in is absurd since the majority of the MU in $ figures comes from the 10k.

Wish you the best of luck. If you want to buy more of yourself in some 10ks @ 1.14 message me.
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05-18-2017 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EZgameZ
+1

Both are useless tools now. And no one here is trolling you. Im a regular investor and every single time someone posts a package with some "good value" tournaments that are 565s and says its a good deal because its only 1.2 but then charges the same MU for a 10k they're likely losing in is absurd since the majority of the MU in $ figures comes from the 10k.

Wish you the best of luck. If you want to buy more of yourself in some 10ks @ 1.14 message me.


The 1.2 is an average over all events. Not just for an individual $10k. There are huge value events like the monster stack, millionaire maker, and main included as well.

Not responding to any future trolls.
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05-18-2017 , 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doublejoker
The 1.2 is an average over all events. Not just for an individual $10k. There are huge value events like the monster stack, millionaire maker, and main included as well.

Not responding to any future trolls.
Allen-

You referring to potential investors who are asking for data which is totally reasonable to provide as "trolls" is really troubling. This makes you look really bad. It is simple -- you can either provide what they are asking for or you can say you do not wish to provide it (which, IMO, will decrease the probability of this selling here). Simply writing it off as trolling is frankly ridiculous; no one has trolled you.
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05-18-2017 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Ive already provided way more data than most on this forum. My hendon mob and wikipedia are public record if you need more information.
Have to agree with this but what else do you expect with how you make your voice heard in the poker community regarding various topics.

Wouldn't buy myself as i doubt hes in the lab every day and assume 30% of profits goes straight to the IRS but gl.

Not even a mention of taxes at all in the thread but daren't ask for fear of being labelled a TROLL.
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05-18-2017 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by U shove i call
Have to agree with this but what else do you expect with how you make your voice heard in the poker community regarding various topics.

Wouldn't buy myself as i doubt hes in the lab every day and assume 30% of profits goes straight to the IRS but gl.

Not even a mention of taxes at all in the thread but daren't ask for fear of being labelled a TROLL.
Reasonable question. Taxes are the responsibility of whoever profits.
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05-18-2017 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Two SHAE
Allen-

You referring to potential investors who are asking for data which is totally reasonable to provide as "trolls" is really troubling. This makes you look really bad. It is simple -- you can either provide what they are asking for or you can say you do not wish to provide it (which, IMO, will decrease the probability of this selling here). Simply writing it off as trolling is frankly ridiculous; no one has trolled you.


Ive provided enough relevant data. I do get these exact comments every year though.

Im offering a package of what events im playing this summer. It includes several excellent value events as well as some higher buyin mixed events.

The markup is not for one event but an average over all events listed.

If you think the markup is fair you are free to invest.
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05-18-2017 , 09:51 PM
How long does it take to breakout the markup on a package this big, and why do you refuse to do it? You want people to invest 100k in you because you feel 1.2 is fair. If it's fair you would think spending the time to do it would potentionally net you more investers because it shows you aren't lazy and actually care.
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05-18-2017 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by spimp13
How long does it take to breakout the markup on a package this big, and why do you refuse to do it? You want people to invest 100k in you because you feel 1.2 is fair. If it's fair you would think spending the time to do it would potentionally net you more investers because it shows you aren't lazy and actually care.


Its a simple way to do it. Almost as simple as spelling investors. A few years ago we broke down events into small, medium and large buyins. Guess what? Thats how the 1.2 number was derived. Its much simpler for accounting and record keeping to do it this way.

I get a detailed printout every year from wsop which is sent to each investor.
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05-19-2017 , 01:53 AM
why do we keep calling it 100k my math works it out to be 191k give or take a few errors

1.2 on the 50k seems legit btw i need to find a job making 10k to play a tourney that i have no edge in
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05-19-2017 , 02:48 AM
If you don't change your attitude to potential investors who are asking perfectly reasonable questions then i'd be surprised if you sell this.
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05-19-2017 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bat
why do we keep calling it 100k my math works it out to be 191k give or take a few errors

1.2 on the 50k seems legit btw i need to find a job making 10k to play a tourney that i have no edge in


You trolls are outta control. First of all I dont play all the events listed. There are day 2s and day 3s and early and late events in same day. It will work out to around 100k in buyins. If you read the intro, the $50k, which I final tabled the last time I played it, is not included and will be sold at par if I decide to play.
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