What's this with the preflop bet sizing police? - Page 5 - Midstakes MTT -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums

intclock · 07-26-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by betgo

I am sort of addicted to posting here, but I am going to try to redertuce or eliminate my strategy posts.

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Sort of?

Maybe you should make an attempt to understand what others are saying instead of coming into every single thread whining that no one respects your opinion.

Do I post the best strat? Absolutely not. But at least I try to look at things from different perspectives. You, on the other hand, have a very rigid approach, so this thread is particularly ironic. Talk about forum police...

hunting4nemo · 07-26-2012, 02:35 PM

Unrealzeal has to be one of the most dedicated troll accounts in the history of the internet. Respect

intclock · 07-26-2012, 02:59 PM

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/87...-spot-1226587/

Oh look. Guy opens 2.5x /w antes and all the sickos say he should have bet bigger... Betgo, your premise is false.

**ssnyc** · 07-26-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by intclock

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/87...-spot-1226587/

Oh look. Guy opens 2.5x /w antes and all the sickos say he should have bet bigger... Betgo, your premise is false.

That is BVB. People.... Just stick with the post and not the poster

desperad0oo7 · 07-26-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hunting4nemo

Unrealzeal has to be one of the most dedicated troll accounts in the history of the internet. Respect

not a troll brah, he's the real deal, natural and all.

Foks · 07-26-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by unrealzeal

The main reason why the gap has closed between you guys and the sharks is because you saw winning players raise smaller and make money but there is sizing you can use in poker that is unexploitable...eventually everyone will be using correct sizing because people will just find a sizing that works best and look at their profit graphs but there is a reason why you are having better results with smaller sizing

The only thing I'm saying different than the heroes you guys worship is I am calling protection bets isolation bets because its more accurate

Betgo you are a math Guy so do yourself a favor and set equity equal to zero and calculate the pot odds of the unexploitable range vs a random hand on the big blind...this will give you the midpoint of correct pf sizing and is a fun exercise

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lol what

Good oL Urz.

Fun thread, a little too much on the snide side however.

TheChamp11 · 07-26-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by betgo

This is really unacceptable and you are really abusing the anonymity of the Internet. I guess you want to stop me from posting here and you may suceed. I don't like the way this board is going.

One time!

betgo · 07-26-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by intclock

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/87...-spot-1226587/

Oh look. Guy opens 2.5x /w antes and all the sickos say he should have bet bigger... Betgo, your premise is false.

Actually, I think sicko said larger 4-bet size.

Think it is fine to discuss sizing. Just seemed to see a lot of posts where it seemed like an automatic "too large".

Just wanted to discuss issue. Not claiming to be always right.

OMGClayDol · 07-27-2012, 01:00 AM

lol at gestapo, such a racist betgo

to be fair, yes i admit his post is out of line
edit: oh you admit you are racist towards germans yourself, at least you are honest

i mean this thread is just dumb, you haven't really done anything other than say "oh some people think i am wrong but don't say why"

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Originally Posted by intclock

Sort of?

Maybe you should make an attempt to understand what others are saying instead of coming into every single thread whining that no one respects your opinion.

Do I post the best strat? Absolutely not. But at least I try to look at things from different perspectives. You, on the other hand, have a very rigid approach, so this thread is particularly ironic. Talk about forum police...

this basically, no offence

unrealzeal · 07-27-2012, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ssnyc

That is BVB. People.... Just stick with the post and not the poster

In this hand the bet size is problematic because it's from out of position so the 4 bet size isn't enough...you can set some STD sizing and add some for being oop...in general its 2x in position and 2.5x out of position

As for open raises desperado pretty much nailed correct sizing...it really depends on hand strength position and reads but if you can play expensive pots with made hands and cheap ones with draws you will will the pf sizing war

unrealzeal · 07-27-2012, 03:23 AM

Oh by the way...the reason I might sound like I'm trolling is because anyone can do some fairly simple math to figure out what each hand is worth and if you did that and followed it you would theoretically never lose but I've given out way too much free info so the only thing more I will say is that if you set the equity of the blind to zero it makes the math easy...value raises are to give the blind zero ev

hunting4nemo · 07-27-2012, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by unrealzeal

I've given out way too much free info

How much do you charge for coaching?

desperad0oo7 · 07-27-2012, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by unrealzeal

Oh by the way...the reason I might sound like I'm trolling is because anyone can do some fairly simple math to figure out what each hand is worth and if you did that and followed it you would theoretically never lose but I've given out way too much free info so the only thing more I will say is that if you set the equity of the blind to zero it makes the math easy...value raises are to give the blind zero ev

super nash ITT

unrealzeal · 07-27-2012, 10:53 AM

Stop qouting me if you aren't going to say anything relevant so I don't have to come back to this thread

desperad0oo7 · 07-27-2012, 11:05 AM

I could say something relevant but I fear the realization that your "theories" are a huge load of **** might shatter your world too much for it to be ethical.