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04-24-2016 , 06:04 PM
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Was this a bad shove here against a TAG?

    Poker Stars, $20 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 100 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37311531

    Hero (MP3): 20,006 (20 bb)
    CO: 30,788 (30.8 bb)
    BTN: 32,784 (32.8 bb)
    SB: 115,017 (115 bb)
    BB: 20,391 (20.4 bb)
    UTG+2: 74,124 (74.1 bb)
    MP1: 13,725 (13.7 bb)
    MP2: 44,779 (44.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A T
    2 folds, MP2 raises to 2,240, Hero raises to 19,906 and is all-in, CO raises to 30,688 and is all-in, 3 folds, MP2 calls 28,448

    Flop: (83,582) T 9 5 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: (83,582) 2 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (83,582) 6 (3 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 83,582 pot
    Final Board: T 9 5 2 6
    Hero showed A T and lost (-20,006 net)
    CO showed A Q and won 83,582 (52,794 net)
    MP2 showed A A and lost (-30,788 net)



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    04-24-2016 , 10:16 PM
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    Prolly flatting first time around against a tag, shoving 88+,AJs+,AQo+ or sth among those lines and maybe flatting some suited broadways if players behind arent to keen to squeeze.
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    04-25-2016 , 07:37 AM
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    ^ This pretty much


    Giving a TAG ~11.5% open range here, hrc yields this
    http://hands.holdemresources.net/?id=jgvldt82hfoz
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    04-30-2016 , 12:15 AM
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    With 800+500+1000+2240 (4340) already in the pot a pot-sized bet (4.5BB) leaves you only 1.2x pot post-flop even if you get only one caller and with some big stacks acting after you, it's hard to expect either that the original raiser will fold or that you won't get into a multi-way pot, so it's either flat or shove (maybe even a fold, but not often). I would expect a shove to succeed most of the time here and I would expect a fair number of worse hands to call from big stacks, so shove is not out of line. I like that better than a flat and then a tough spot when somebody else raises.
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