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Old 06-17-2012, 05:01 PM   #1
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Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

I was having a debate with two friends on whether this is a flat or a 3bet.

UTG is a fish bronze star, no reads apart of that.

I haven't seen him open light and get too much out of line.

Do you 3bet or flat here?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 30 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13243192

MP3: 16,993 (56.6 bb)
CO: 18,125 (60.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): 12,970 (43.2 bb)
SB: 12,001 (40 bb)
BB: 29,720 (99.1 bb)
UTG+1: 7,530 (25.1 bb)
UTG+2: 16,570 (55.2 bb)
MP1: 14,875 (49.6 bb)
MP2: 16,235 (54.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A Q
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 900, 4 folds

Hero?
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Old 06-17-2012, 05:12 PM   #2
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Re: Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

flat
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Old 06-17-2012, 05:38 PM   #3
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Re: Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

Flat cause of 3x
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:27 AM   #4
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Re: Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

I like flat as well, you're not going to get him to spazz here very often with worse, and without any stats or reads on the player you have to assume he's not very light. use position and hand strength to play post flop.
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:47 AM   #5
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Re: Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

Against a bronze star, I usually flat. Against a good player or a tight player, I usually fold.
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:21 AM   #6
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Re: Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

What do you do if the flop comes Axx are we going to fold to 2 barrels? If he is a fish cant we 3bet? Were ahead of his flatting range and in position and he will 4 bet his monsters.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:00 AM   #7
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Re: Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

easy fold
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:24 AM   #8
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Re: Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

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Against a bronze star, I usually flat. Against a good player or a tight player, I usually fold.
I'm rarely, rarely folding a hand this strong on the BTN. And I'm never folding this deep even if Dan Harrington himself is the initial raiser.
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:19 AM   #9
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Re: Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

Flat! You got position and can use your edge postflop against a fish. What are you going to do on a 4bet with 43bb?
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:23 AM   #10
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Re: Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

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UTG is a fish bronze star, no reads apart of that.

I haven't seen him open light and get too much out of line.
seems like a fold
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:41 AM   #11
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Re: Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

Still flatting. Why wouldn't we wanna play a pot in position vs a tard with a defined range?
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:43 AM   #12
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Re: Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

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Still flatting. Why wouldn't we wanna play a pot in position vs a tard with a defined range?
RIO?

Though, I`m probably also not folding in game.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:08 AM   #13
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Still flatting. Why wouldn't we wanna play a pot in position vs a tard with a defined range?
cause we dont beat the range or have a hand that flops monsters vs his range often enough.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:28 AM   #14
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Re: Sunday Million: AQ on btn v UTG open

Yes but he'll still make enough fish mistakes and we can win alot of the pots we miss.
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easy fold.
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