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Old 08-05-2012, 12:48 PM   #1
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std. 75$ preflop spot

i am 18/67 left, 45 cash. OR is running 18/15/12,5 over 90 hands.


shuv or fold?

only reg behind is guy to my left. SB is a supernova i dont have many hands on, BB was a tightish random.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $69 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 70 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13670092

UTG+1: 18,341 (30.6 bb)
UTG+2: 10,961 (18.3 bb)
MP1: 9,058 (15.1 bb)
MP2: 14,680 (24.5 bb)
MP3: 27,234 (45.4 bb)
Hero (CO): 19,380 (32.3 bb)
BTN: 10,536 (17.6 bb)
SB: 17,245 (28.7 bb)
BB: 15,966 (26.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4 4
3 folds, MP2 raises to 1,200, MP3 folds, [color="red"]Hero ??
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:01 PM   #2
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

snap fold?

Shove 19K-ish in to 2730 w/ 44? Nah against his stats. It will work fair amount of time but I think there are better spots to spas 30bb+ agains a MP open.
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:53 PM   #3
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

I'd rather 3b/f than shove but fold is std here.
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:26 AM   #4
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

if all of these hands are post ante i'd fold > 3b/f
he seems kinda aggressive and might just 4bjam bluff and we end up folding the best hand.
if he plays kinda straightforward vs you 3b/f 44 can be good. but then 3b/f 73s can be good as well. the difference is minimal.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:03 AM   #5
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

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if all of these hands are post ante i'd fold > 3b/f
he seems kinda aggressive and might just 4bjam bluff and we end up folding the best hand.
if he plays kinda straightforward vs you 3b/f 44 can be good. but then 3b/f 73s can be good as well. the difference is minimal.
i definately hate 3 bet/folding a hand like 44 here as 44 plays basically exactly the same as 77 here and i dont see people folding 77 here.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:18 AM   #6
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

3b/f is pretty wack. I can see arguments for shoving or folding. Depends how I feel at the time I guess. Folding more often than shoving though.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:14 AM   #7
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

I'm folding most of the time.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:34 AM   #8
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

call and setmine ez game
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:53 AM   #9
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

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3b/f is pretty wack. I can see arguments for shoving or folding. Depends how I feel at the time I guess. Folding more often than shoving though.
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3bet/folding and set mining are out of the question imo.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:12 AM   #10
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

I like 3b/f to all if you have been tight, looks really nutted with stacks behind
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:36 AM   #11
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

fold
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:53 AM   #12
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

44 is like the worst hand to 3b/f. No blocker, and play like **** post when flatted. Would rather 2666/f A7,KJ here.
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:53 AM   #13
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

shoving seems rly bad esp with those stacks behind, implying also that OR is not superlight. i do not see the worth of 3b either. so its fold 4me and flatting is the 2nd preferred option.
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:22 AM   #14
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Re: std. 75$ preflop spot

+1 for the fold.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:18 AM   #15
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in the foldcamp...
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