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08-25-2010 , 10:14 AM
In disclosure I am a pretty solid FLO8 player and its probably my fav game, but I struggle with the pot limit version some. So anyway line check please:


Poker Stars $30+$3 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
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CO: t7835 261.17 BBs
BTN: t2985 99.50 BBs
SB: t2925 97.50 BBs
Hero (BB): t13395 446.50 BBs
UTG: t7417 247.23 BBs
UTG+1: t1239 41.30 BBs
UTG+2: t4262 142.07 BBs
MP1: t2775 92.50 BBs
MP2: t2665 88.83 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with T 3 J 4
UTG calls t30, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, CO calls t30, BTN calls t30, SB calls t15, Hero checks

Flop: (t240) 4 5 J (8 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets t60, MP2 calls t60, CO calls t60, BTN calls t60, SB folds, Hero raises to t600, UTG folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls t540, MP2 folds, CO calls t540, BTN folds

Turn: (t2160) T (3 players)
Hero bets t2160, MP1 calls t2145 all in, CO folds



Mainly concerned with flop line. Obv I have to get it on that turn. In limit I would raise it up to juice the pot against all the low draws. Does the same principle hold in pot limit or should I be pot controlling here?
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08-25-2010 , 10:16 AM
c/c flop, lead turn 3/4ths, reevaluate river.

Flop is pretty spew, as you're crushed by any high and ppl don't ever fold A2xx anyway, especially multiway.
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08-25-2010 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by p3rc4
c/c flop, lead turn 3/4ths, reevaluate river.

Flop is pretty spew, as you're crushed by any high and ppl don't ever fold A2xx anyway, especially multiway.
Thanks P3rc4. Pretty hard for someone to actually have a better high tho, right?
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08-25-2010 , 10:29 AM
Meh, your straight (at least the nutstraight/nutlow) is blocked by everyone and you currently possess a pair of jacks without a kicker and an 8% chance of getting a flush.
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08-25-2010 , 10:30 AM
Flop is somewhere between bad and terrible, get it in ott obviously
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08-25-2010 , 10:30 AM
I have Jacks up -- not a straight draw.
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08-25-2010 , 10:31 AM
Wat, oh lol, misread completely. Thought u had JT32.

Raise and get it in on decent turns is perfectly fine then! They will chase as if there was no tomorrow.
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08-25-2010 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by p3rc4
Meh, your straight (at least the nutstraight/nutlow) is blocked by everyone and you currently possess a pair of jacks without a kicker and an 8% chance of getting a flush.
Does he not have 2 pairs? Maybe I duno how to play PLO8
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08-25-2010 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by qazikm2000
Does he not have 2 pairs? Maybe I duno how to play PLO8
You certainly know how to play the game of SLOW PONY!

Last edited by p3rc4; 08-25-2010 at 10:33 AM. Reason: slowpony hu4rollz?
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08-25-2010 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by p3rc4
Wat, oh lol, misread completely. Thought u had JT32.

Raise and get it in on decent turns is perfectly fine then! They will chase as if there was no tomorrow.
thank goodness. after ur first response I thought I must be even more clueless than I thought I was.
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08-25-2010 , 06:43 PM
I don't love flop raise as I don't think the equity of top and bottom pair is all that great when we don't have a draw to the low (I don't know equities numerically in O8 though, just kind of feel them out). Turn is good.
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08-25-2010 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
I don't love flop raise as I don't think the equity of top and bottom pair is all that great when we don't have a draw to the low (I don't know equities numerically in O8 though, just kind of feel them out). Turn is good.
I think its actually pretty good when both villians are likely playing for low here, right?
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08-25-2010 , 07:51 PM
^Well, I just think it's really thin because there are so many cards that can come off and ruin our hand besides the low. Like it's really easy for someone to make a better 2 pair while chasing the low and there are always more straight draws out there than in hold em. I could be wrong but I try not to overplay my 2 pair hands in omaha...a set of 5s or Js would be a different story, as we are much less likely to be counterfeited by a random card.
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