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08-15-2011 , 03:03 PM

PAROOVKA

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 405

Hi again guys!

First of all, please take a look at this:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...dvise-1082275/

And now another similar question-what to do here?... Please don't tell me any more about the bet sizing, as everything was said in the previous thread and I'll know to bet less next time, however against two opponents I still would bet like 35k OTF

I have more information here-villain seems right, 18/14/3 after a sample of 75 hands and so far played proper poker. It's 20 players left, our stack is more or less about the average, however there are not too huge differences between all of the players. I always play to win, not to withstand the longest I can.

Thanx for your opinions!

Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (4,000/8,000 blinds, 800 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10288662

UTG: 369,117 (46.1 bb)
MP: 220,093 (27.5 bb)
CO: 74,952 (9.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): 321,948 (40.2 bb)
SB: 475,283 (59.4 bb)
BB: 556,770 (69.6 bb)

Preflop: (4,800) Hero is BTN with A

3 folds, Hero raises to 17,770, SB calls 13,770, BB calls 9,770

Flop: (58,110) J

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 44,440, SB folds, BB calls 44,440

Turn: (146,990) 9

(2 players)
BB checks,
Hero???

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08-15-2011 , 03:43 PM

MartinGuthOBV

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wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to big otf
b/f turn

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08-15-2011 , 03:51 PM

Chuck Bass

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,480

Flop bet is way too big and turn I'd check back. It's a much better spot to check back than your previous hand because:

1) Your effective stacks behind are bigger and you don't want to go broke here
2) Almost villain's entire range we beat just made a gutshot or oesd to go with his top pair and he may check/shove those hands forcing us to fold

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08-15-2011 , 03:53 PM

canoodles

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Chucks got it imo

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08-16-2011 , 08:16 AM

furo

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

i'm prolly trapped in the twilight zone again cause seems like a really trivial b/c turn to me.
flop is a bit big

re chuck. i dont get how your 2nd point does that make a 1) check or 2) b/f. i'm totally shocked.

ppl realise that we open from the BTN and its 40BB eff?

Last edited by furo; 08-16-2011 at 08:23 AM.

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08-16-2011 , 03:10 PM

Texas Chuck

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6,237

I think I b/c ott as played. A villian with those stats should be playing most hands that now beat us more aggressively otf.

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08-16-2011 , 04:20 PM

JoeDiego

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,820

You need to start folding Aces pre!

You're gonna have to listen to us talk about your bet sizing being too
big on the flop. If they're going to call 44k they are going to call 31k and vice versa. You need to try and tilt them with a smaller bet sizing and give them the illusion that you might fold if they shove. The closer to the pot you bet the less fold equity they'll think they have. You also give yourself much more room on the turn, keeping you're whole range of options open.

As played I'm bet calling the turn. KT got there but not much else. We started with 40bbs and they should put you on a wider range b/c you opened from the button.

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08-20-2011 , 02:47 PM

PAROOVKA

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 405

Here's the result. Still not sure if check back OTT or as played (with the smaller bet sizing, obv

), but it's poker, so sometimes you are never sure

Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (4,000/8,000 blinds, 800 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10316352

UTG: 369,117 (46.1 bb)
MP: 220,093 (27.5 bb)
CO: 74,952 (9.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): 321,948 (40.2 bb)
SB: 475,283 (59.4 bb)
BB: 556,770 (69.6 bb)
Turn: (146,990) 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 99,970, BB raises to 446,900, Hero calls 158,968 and is all-in

River: (664,866) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: 664,866 pot
Final Board: J

Hero showed A

and lost (-321,948 net)
BB showed 9

and won 664,866 (342,918 net)

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08-21-2011 , 02:00 AM

ndahlhoff10

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I like checking it back.

Board: Qc Jh 6d 9s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.731% 55.73% 00.00% 16920 0.00 { AA }
Hand 1: 44.269% 44.27% 00.00% 13440 0.00 { 66, AQs-AJs, K9s+, Q8s+, JTs, T9s, AQo-AJo, KTo+, Q9o+, JTo, T9o }

There's not a ton of value to be had with a turn bet and he might not have some of the weaker hands in his range or he might fold them to a turn bet. Also, I kinda feel like we own ourselves by calling it off since he's shoving more often when we're beat but might just call hands like JT.

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