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08-30-2010 , 12:00 PM
I have been pretty active but have slowed some since bubble burst. Havent show anything down since getting it all in otf with the A high flush draw with overs against the J high flush draw and holding for massive pot. Not sure if villians were paying attn to that hand but it is the reason I take the line I do. First flatter has been defending his blinds a ton showing down 86o and T2o. 2nd guy getting sick odds so he should be wide as well.


Poker Stars $100+$9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t10370 M = 5.53
UTG+1: t27600 M = 14.72
UTG+2: t20926 M = 11.16
MP1: t13823 M = 7.37
MP2: t17337 M = 9.25
Hero (CO): t37282 M = 19.88
BTN: t10655 M = 5.68
SB: t19639 M = 10.47
BB: t24950 M = 13.31

Pre Flop: (t1875) Hero is CO with Q T
5 folds, Hero raises to t1775, 1 fold, SB calls t1375, BB calls t975

Flop: (t6000) J 4 7 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t6000) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets t1600, Hero raises to t4800, SB folds, BB calls t3200

River: (t15600) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Thoughts on all streets please.
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08-30-2010 , 12:08 PM
I bet flop.

His weird blocking bet into two people ott makes me want to raise to 5555 or something; as played I guess he could have K otr and it's hard to see him calling with worse, so checking behind seems fine even though I feel like you have the best hand a ton of the time.

Edit: oh, and pre is good obv.

Last edited by Gadarene; 08-30-2010 at 12:09 PM. Reason: You said all streets
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08-30-2010 , 12:11 PM
I just bet the flop with no plans on folding
as played may go a bit more on turn
I may bet/fold small on river but that may be wrong as we really can't get value from much
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08-30-2010 , 12:11 PM
Whee ssnyc agrees with me! I feel validated.
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08-30-2010 , 01:16 PM
i dont hate to check the flop here. the problem is that u wont get it in great here if u get it in otf so checking is fine. its def not terrible to get it in here but given ur image and the table dynamics i think u dont have enough fe in that spot. id check back otr, tho i really dont have any idea wether thats the best play tbh.
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08-30-2010 , 01:34 PM
NH I liike checking back the flop and taking a free card especially after playing a FD really aggro earlier. Def betting any turn if checked to me again and raise is good. Checking back the river is standard I think.

As described I think it's likely one or both of them got a piece of this flop and semibluffing won't be that successful
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08-30-2010 , 01:40 PM
I bet flop but checking behind seems ok.

I would for sure raise more on the turn, you should bet enough to set up a natural river shove and your raise doesn't do that. So I would go to like 6k on the tun.
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08-30-2010 , 01:44 PM
I agree turn should be larger. At the time his lead just felt so weak and so I didnt want to lose him. As far as checking back otf, I wanted to play it different from the hand before and I wouldnt love having to get it in otf.
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08-30-2010 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Chuck
I agree turn should be larger. At the time his lead just felt so weak and so I didnt want to lose him. As far as checking back otf, I wanted to play it different from the hand before and I wouldnt love having to get it in otf.
Betsizing mistakes are often far more apparent after the hand/decision than at the time
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08-30-2010 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy2
I bet flop but checking behind seems ok.

I would for sure raise more on the turn, you should bet enough to set up a natural river shove and your raise doesn't do that. So I would go to like 6k on the tun.
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fwiw i'd go about 3800 OTF planning on bombing any turn if one of them calls, might take a free card if they both call unless turn's like a K or possibly a Q. think i'd check back a 9 though.
if we get CR'd life sucks though.

and i'd check river too.
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08-30-2010 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ssnyc
I just bet the flop with no plans on folding
as played may go a bit more on turn
I may bet/fold small on river but that may be wrong as we really can't get value from much
agree with most of this. definately bet the flop, river is close, you had another hand with the qh a little while back where i said check river, hand was a little different though, i dont mind a betsmall/fold here otr at all
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08-30-2010 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sunnydunerz
agree with most of this. definately bet the flop, river is close, you had another hand with the qh a little while back where i said check river, hand was a little different though, i dont mind a betsmall/fold here otr at all
the problem here is that the Q and J are accounted for and our hand looks exactly like what it is...

just not sure what he can call with and who wants to face a kamikaze bluff
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