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05-26-2017 , 09:33 AM
$260 live mtt. Sitting on a 24.3k stack at 300-600 75. Open to 1200 (w jj)rom utg+1 at 8 handed table, get 3 bet to 3700 by semi young guy. Havenet seen him 3 bet first 5 levels and would say he's prolly a little on tighter side. Only history is I called him down early on when he 3 barrel bluffs early in event with a flush draw when I had tptk. He ends up barreling flop, turn, and river when I'm oop and I take a pot control line.

So hand, I open to 1200 with jj, he 3bets 3700 (2 spots to my left). Gets back to me. I think 2 min and know this is prolly spewy but jam 40 bbs. Can I chalk this up to just being a cooler or do I somehow have to find a fold and look for better spot here. Against an assumed 3 betting range, I assume it's prolly 10-10+, aq+ but maybe tighter. I didn't feel like just calling bc I know I'm getting it in on most low flops. Urgh was hoping he had aq or ak.

Honestly just wondering if I should just chalk this up to a cooler or do I need to muck and find better spot? With his perceived range and fact he hasn't 3 bet at all, I'm assuming this is a fold. At best we flip and majority of time we are crushed. Thanks for input. I would say getting it in is prolly fine with 25 bbs or less is ok but 40 is too many to get in pf??
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05-26-2017 , 01:44 PM
What did he have on the flush draw hand?

Shoving is not very good IMO. 3-betting an early position raiser in early position should send warning signals. Just flat pre. We have 40bbs. Play some poker.

Lets just say his 3-betting range is TT+,AQ+. What part of that range do you think he's calling with?
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05-26-2017 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
What did he have on the flush draw hand?

Shoving is not very good IMO. 3-betting an early position raiser in early position should send warning signals. Just flat pre. We have 40bbs. Play some poker.

Lets just say his 3-betting range is TT+,AQ+. What part of that range do you think he's calling with?
Yea shoving is terrible when I look back. Hope he's calling with Ak,aq, 10-10. But yea good luck probably only ak is calling in that combo and all others qq+ dominate me.

Flush draw hand, I believe I had aq on a q-5-8 flop with two flush cards out. I basically led out on flop and check called turn+ river out of position trying not to play a big pot. Turn and river did not bring diamond and k or higher.

Reason I don't flat but this is prolly bad. I'm folding almost all flops with a q/k/a and any competent player should Cbet those flops 100% of time. Result was me donating chips if I flat bc I'm
Getting it in on all low raggy flops. Bad play by me though
Honestly. I just have trouble folding high pairs when I haven't gotten a lot of good hands after 5 rounds and I feel I only
Make this fold to an old nit or someone who is playing super nitty.

Last edited by Jkpoker10; 05-26-2017 at 02:41 PM.
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05-29-2017 , 12:33 AM
No 3bet for five levels would have alarms going off, JJ no good (coin flip at best). This is such a commonly misplayrd hand for me. I've done this a lot and yes it's spewing!
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05-29-2017 , 04:47 PM
Agree with just flat.
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05-31-2017 , 09:02 PM
Bongo, TT is your only hope here... Tough, but flat.
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06-01-2017 , 11:34 AM
its spewing only because you Jammed... i see nothing at all wrong with investing 4 more BB with a flat.. yes, if he's competent, he will bet on any A / K ... not sure about Q though.. and dont forget, you could get a nice flop as well... not only J-x-x, but connected cards for a 4 straight/4 flush, backdoor draws to either, or a 10 high flop. all those combos for a mere 4 BB flat...

i think a fold here is WAY too nitty
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06-02-2017 , 11:33 AM
gotta flat here. Your 4 bet shove is only getting called by a pretty narrow range that is probably like JJ+ AK+
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