OR was random.
Flatcaller was a reg, pretty tight. Thus no dynamics vs him.
His fold to 3b was - 4/4. 1st time he 4bets. (its not just 4ball, but NY backraise )

I slept just 5 hours b4 wcoop, so was sleepy and wasn`t too active, he views me like 24/18/6.

Theoretically shouldn`t be too hard to find a fold vs tight guy w/o dynamics and probably its even easier to find a better spot.

Fwiw its at least 2x average eff stack.


PokerStars - $100+$9|300/600 Ante 75 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 14,712
UTG+2: 39,678 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 9.21, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 77)
MP: 10,087
Hero (MP+1): 53,647
CO: 6,713
BTN: 26,214
SB: 20,677
BB: 34,337
UTG: 17,107 (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

9 players post ante of 75, SB posts SB 300, BB posts BB 600

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,575) Hero has K A

UTG raises to 1,200, fold, UTG+2 calls 1,200, fold, Hero raises to 3,855, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 2,655, UTG+2 raises to 12,000, Hero...


Blockers yo or fold?
Do you think its reasonable to expect to chop it a lot?

I doubt UTG is ever really super strong all that often since you're unlikely to be light here if you're 3betting an UTG opener and UTG+2 caller at a full table with no dynamics, plus you have 2 blockers and once he calls then UTG+2 has great odds to flat so a lot of the time he's gonna be OOP in a multiway pot so kinda feel like he'd 4bet his best hands here at least some of the time so can maybe discount QQ+ and AKs a bit.

UTG+2 makes me pretty sad here... If he's folded to every 3bet up till now and not taken any opportunity to 4bet light then I'd find it unlikely he's suddenly decided to spazz here. Especially into the only guy who has him covered when you're both well above average stack. If he doesn't have it then he has to be at least a little concerned by UTG as well.

He can definitely have AK as well but best case scenario you're probably flipping and can easily be crushed... Don't love it but think I'd sigh fold and not tell anyone...

fold and type "lol squeeeeeze!!!!!!1" into chat. the intentional typo being absolutely critical.

I'd fold, I don't think AK is in his range he would 3bet that pre, looks like KK+

Fold, V is nutted. You're 30% @ best against V's range, imo.

What range is a random V going to flat pre w/ UTG+2 and then proceed to 4b w/?

this is looks like an easy shove with the amount of dead money in the pot, he'll show up with 99-QQ and AQ often enough

You think he will call a 5-bet shove here with 65bbs with AQ?

No way if he is anything but terrabad.
I think he's got a very strong holding. Even tho he might do some crazy 4-bet bluff here (very rarely) I'm not willing to take the risk. With the stack OP has got, he will find better spots later on.

allin

To me looks like AK-AQ as mentioned here. Could also be QQ+, but I see this line a ton with AK. Maybe with a big pair his raise would be not so big... anyway is a hard decision, at best you can split or be 50/50, not so many chances he will have AQ. Psss

I didn't really want to touch this thread because it's a really awkward spot. I think I shrug and fold because the sizing is so large and not that of a reg, leading me to thinking it's a greedy size with the nuts.

NY Backraise?

sigh and fold.

right, its not all of NY that can fire this off

i clicked as hard as v once with worse, think his sizing is poor with any range, but prob just move along and not worry too much

Fold, AK is probably the absolute bottom of his value range.

Fold

Have to fold it

KJ better blockers, u fold now elephnt