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Old 02-07-2012, 03:12 AM   #1
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Slowplayed AA pre makes for tricky river spot

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $50 Buy-in (250/500 blinds, 60 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11810572

SB: 14,496 (29 bb)
BB: 26,852 (53.7 bb)
UTG+1: 5,490 (11 bb)
UTG+2: 8,633 (17.3 bb)
MP1: 9,145 (18.3 bb)
MP2: 6,906 (13.8 bb)
MP3: 29,606 (59.2 bb)
Hero (CO): 14,186 (28.4 bb)
BTN: 28,302 (56.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
4 folds, MP3 raises to 1,000, Hero calls 1,000, BTN folds, SB calls 750, BB calls 500

Flop: (4,540) T K T (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (4,540) 3 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets 1,816, 2 folds, MP3 calls 1,816

River: (8,172) 4 (2 players)
MP3 bets 6,730, [color="grey"]


I wasn't loving the paired board so decide to jus check back flop, once the villain checks twice along with the other players Im happy to fire but the villains river lead from out of nowhere was confusing. I was tryin to put him on a bluff here but i feel if he had a bluff here, he wouldnt take this line, he'd most likely c bet flop/turn. If he check calls turn he's either got a draw/showdown and i think again with draws he's prob betting them before the river. All we can beat he is some sort of weird A high he decide to turn into a bluff on the river, thoughts?
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:26 AM   #2
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Re: Slowplayed AA pre makes for tricky river spot

Any reasons for not 3betting pre?
Flop seems like a clear b/f for value 4way
More on turn
Fold river
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:47 AM   #3
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Re: Slowplayed AA pre makes for tricky river spot

3bet pre ffs, this is an open invitation for multiway. fold river
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:52 AM   #4
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Re: Slowplayed AA pre makes for tricky river spot

2222 pre
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:03 AM   #5
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Re: Slowplayed AA pre makes for tricky river spot

I flatted because there were trigger happy aggros behind. Everyone seems to think rivers a fold, why specifically?
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:27 AM   #6
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Re: Slowplayed AA pre makes for tricky river spot

Maybe because you beat nothing really?
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:56 AM   #7
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Maybe because you beat nothing really?
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Old 02-07-2012, 07:07 AM   #8
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Lol at berating pre
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:04 AM   #9
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I flatted because there were trigger happy aggros behind.
Having trigger-happy aggros behind you means that you are likely to end up exactly in situation that you ended up in --- a 4-way pot with Aces -- a PF re-raise would have been smarter here, unless you like inviting defeat...

Flatting pre is a good idea with Aces if you are trying to trap, but this is not the situation in which to do that...
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:13 AM   #10
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Having trigger-happy aggros behind you means that you are likely to end up exactly in situation that you ended up in --- a 4-way pot with Aces -- a PF re-raise would have been smarter here, unless you like inviting defeat...

Flatting pre is a good idea with Aces if you are trying to trap, but this is not the situation in which to do that...
yeah aggro players behind suck rlly hard
its way better when there are lose passive players

3bet to around 3,5k pre like u should have learned in hoh
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:27 AM   #11
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Re: Slowplayed AA pre makes for tricky river spot

AA is so vulnerable with more than one player in the Hand. This is basic poker here! 3 bet Raise to 5 pre flop will likely get you back to 1 opponent. Then V bet the Flop after the check! Sometimes all will fold of course, and maybe he will have the 10,but winning a small pot with Aces is better than losing a big one on the river to a suck out club!
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:47 AM   #12
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Re: Slowplayed AA pre makes for tricky river spot

as played villain either hit 44 on the river or is bluffing with a hand like AQ
i doubt he ever has a T or a flush
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as played villain either hit 44 on the river or is bluffing with a hand like AQ
i doubt he ever has a T or a flush
What? I kinda get the T part, but why wouldnt he have a flush?

As played pre, b/f flop and fold river.

I rly prefer 3b pre though if u have at least been somewhat active with 3b (which u always should )
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as played villain either hit 44 on the river or is bluffing with a hand like AQ
i doubt he ever has a T or a flush
Yes most would not check 3 10s on the flop ( only some trappers once in a while) That's why I would V bet the flop for a reasonable amount. I am fairly certain the flush came , but I am pessimistic LOL
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:12 AM   #15
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What? I kinda get the T part, but why wouldnt he have a flush?
if he is aggressive enough to raise some suited garbage preflop, he should be betting flop or at least turn
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