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04-15-2014 , 01:53 PM

craaack

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 112

2nd orbit at this table, dont know anyone.

villain has been stealing 2 of 3 times, showing TT. he was pretty active and seemed competent.
i came to the table with 9BB, doubled up with KK from the BTN. 4 hands later he opens utg+1 with 65BB, i shove KK from MP with 19BB and win against TT.

flatting pre is standard i think.
anyone for leading or c/r the flop? if i c/r: bet turn, shove river?
as played river sizing okay? he doesn't rep a K and should fold his air or 8x hands or draws.

Poker Stars, $45 Buy-in (2,500/5,000 blinds, 625 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP2: 62,077 (12.4 bb)
MP3: 449,511 (89.9 bb)
CO: 72,858 (14.6 bb)
BTN: 209,802 (42 bb)
Hero (SB): 157,883 (31.6 bb)
BB: 226,020 (45.2 bb)
UTG+1: 191,290 (38.3 bb)
UTG+2: 202,260 (40.5 bb)
MP1: 40,393 (8.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

6 folds, BTN raises to 10,000, Hero calls 7,500, BB calls 5,000

Flop: (35,625) T

(3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets 15,000, Hero calls 15,000, BB folds

Turn: (65,625) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (65,625) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets 32,115

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04-15-2014 , 03:17 PM

user12345

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,737

It looks crappy.
3bet pre

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04-15-2014 , 06:45 PM

craaack

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 112

3b/f or 3b/call/shove against unknown?

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04-16-2014 , 10:24 AM

shichibukai

adept

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,018

villain has been stealing 2 of 3 times, showing TT. he was pretty active and seemed competent.

Preflop: Hero is SB with J Q
6 folds, BTN raises to 10,000, Hero calls 7,500 ................ train pls

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04-16-2014 , 10:36 AM

lissistinkt

old hand

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,816

Lol obviously u get berated for thenprecall since everyone is terrible

With ur range on this type of board to lead flop sometimes and def this hand

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04-16-2014 , 10:50 AM

ibimon

adept

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 998

you don't have any reads/stats for post flop play, so wouldn't try anything fancy and play standard with pot odds and all that good ****.
Pre vs "unknown" I fold>call>>>>3bet imo.

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04-16-2014 , 10:58 AM

ArtanisAce

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 470

Agree with ibimon, but i would call and see what's going on here

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04-17-2014 , 02:15 AM

bikram

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,651

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Originally Posted by lissistinkt

Lol obviously u get berated for thenprecall since everyone is terrible

With ur range on this type of board to lead flop sometimes and def this hand

+1

flatting pre is fine here....this villain can blow you off your hand with worse if you 3-bet but you can't call. I also like leading flop.

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04-18-2014 , 05:44 PM

mo3rtelmu

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,529

yeah pre is fine, either lead/gii flop or lead turn sometimes (its a sexy spot to lead anywhere in the hand)

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04-20-2014 , 08:21 AM

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shichibukai

adept

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,018

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Originally Posted by lissistinkt

Lol obviously u get berated for thenprecall since everyone is terrible

With ur range on this type of board to lead flop sometimes and def this hand

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04-21-2014 , 09:36 AM

#11

gregz41

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,609

You probably want to 3b pre here. As played it looks OK if you lead river, you'll win the hand quite a bit when he checks back turn.

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04-21-2014 , 04:08 PM

#12

wesdaco

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 205

Are we representing a set here? or a thin KJ?

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04-22-2014 , 07:52 AM

#13

MartinGuthOBV

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,007

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Originally Posted by mo3rtelmu

yeah pre is fine, either lead/gii flop or lead turn sometimes (its a sexy spot to lead anywhere in the hand)

dont think when we lead otf we get raised very often...

pre is obv std bcs u crush his btn opening range

i guess leading otf is okay but for our overallrange plays a check better

wp op

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04-22-2014 , 10:08 AM

#14

oldsilver

MTTLivePro

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,941

flat pre
lead flop

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04-22-2014 , 12:41 PM

#15

Inepsyrrr

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 618

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04-22-2014 , 01:33 PM

#16

AKupaA

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 488

I prefer to have this hand in my flatting range with these stacks sizes, it flops well, it's not going to be dominated by his range (at least 50%) and it's not difficult to play it postflop.

Why is 3bet/folding so bad for you ibimon? He has no info about us...

As played it's ok for me. Nice bet OTR.

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