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QJo defend from BB, turn decision?  Powerfest QJo defend from BB, turn decision?  Powerfest

05-09-2017 , 08:11 AM
Villain is 11/11 for 18 hands. Last orbit, same positions he opens 3x, I 3bet, he 4bets and I 5bet. He folds.

The guy cold calling from my right was a HUGE whale, sitting it with 52/8/3 in 60 hands. I MIGHT sometimes fold this if the SB would've folded. Definitely looked to play pots against the whale, so PF defend standard imo.

Flop call standard as well, folding would be obv too weak. However, turn is where the decisions come bit harder. In general, I don't know what should I do in these spots. River feels like a miracle card. He's representing quite the strong value-range here and most likely AA/KK will check back the river. Usually you'll see people making hero calls if you just donk lead the river in this situation. Either way, I was looking to snap call the river whether I've checked it to him. I just feel that we're leaving so much value on the table by not shoving there.

IMO, the turn play is debatable, and I'd really like your comments on that.

300/600/60 (8max)

Hero (BB) 52,364 Q J
V1 (11/11 stats) (MP) 46,302
SB (Whale) 112,824

V1 opens 1,800
Whale calls
Hero Calls

Flop (5,880 3players)

Q 6 8

Whale checks
Hero checks
V1 bets 4,410
Hero calls

Turn (14,700)


5

Hero checks
V1 bets 11,700
Hero calls

River (38,100) Q

Hero jams 34,394 (all-in)
V1 calls with 8 8
Spoiler:

Sorry for "manual" HH. For some reason I couldn't paste the HH from PT4.

Last edited by AxeCapital; 05-09-2017 at 08:30 AM.
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05-09-2017 , 09:58 AM
I am no expert, I am on tilt, I have a downswing but i like to write my opinion.

I think there is no problem with defending QJo. but i don't call turn. from his view, it is clear that you hit something otf, top pair, set of 6 or double/single gut shot. You can't have QQ so he will not fold his set. at this point, if i am not holding 79 or flush draw i fold at turn. Because there are too many combos which beats my top pair. If he checks turn, i can bet/fold river.
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05-09-2017 , 08:05 PM
turn is the closer Street imo and prolly fold there to that sizing.
Check river and allow him to bluff/value bet worse.
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