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04-16-2015 , 09:45 PM
The following is a live hand I played earlier this afternoon. Villain 1 is the under the gun raiser, a good player who was capable of a very wide range, I had put a pretty sick beat on him about 30 hands earlier, and he was playing back against me pretty hard. Villian 2 was a 50ish year old weak player. He didn't like to raise pre at all, would never dream of 3 betting, and wouldn't call a raise light from what I've seen. Villain 3 had taken a heavy hit to his stack a few hands earlier and was left with only a few bb. Hand goes as follows.

Blinds 500/1000 100 antes

Hero 32600
Villain 1 12500
Villain 2 28450
Villain 3 3700

Utg raises to 2400 2 folds, villain 2 calls, 3 folds villain 3 pushes all in for 3700, SB folds, hero looks down at 10H 10S. This is where my first question comes in. What is the best way to play this? I elected to just call. The reason I did this is because of the size of the all in, the other 2 players couldn't reraise behind me, and if I did raise the UTG was going all in, because it was me and he was on tilt against me. Also V2 range was either a high pocket pair or a hand I would be flipping with, and I didn't want to go against that range.

Pot was 16200
Flop comes 10c Js Kd

Hero bets 5400
Villain 2 raises to 8800 and is all in
Villain 3 raises to 24750 and is all in
Hero?

I'll post results later
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04-16-2015 , 11:39 PM
If villain 3 pushes all in pre - how can he raise on the flop?


Pre: I iso raise pre after the push to say 8000 - I'm willing to gamble against v1 all in. v2's range should be capped since he didn't raise (unlikely to have a PP that beats you, perhaps JJ). He's likely folding his AQ or whatever to v1's shove.

As for flop, ugh. I think Harrington said it best, when he said you just can't fold a set on the flop. If there was a flop to fold it on this might be it, but I'm never finding it.

Their range is sets, straight draws, and AQ for the straight, perhaps an unlikely 2p. You have good equity against draws and 2p, virtually no equity against higher sets, and some equity against AQ (6 outs twice).

Bottom Line: not folding
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04-16-2015 , 11:55 PM
I'm sorry it was 1 and 2 that went all in after the flop
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04-17-2015 , 12:27 AM
I gotta say id give folding serious consideration.
As for never folding sets, I disagree I've finished top3 in a few good tourneys by folding sets.

I folded top set once when there was a flush warning and three all ins ahead of me to move up in prize money. (Craziest hand ever )
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04-17-2015 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by turtlebrain
I gotta say id give folding serious consideration.
As for never folding sets, I disagree I've finished top3 in a few good tourneys by folding sets.

I folded top set once when there was a flush warning and three all ins ahead of me to move up in prize money. (Craziest hand ever )
What do you mean by flush warning?

XcXcXc or XcXcXy
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04-20-2015 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by turtlebrain
I gotta say id give folding serious consideration.
As for never folding sets, I disagree I've finished top3 in a few good tourneys by folding sets.

I folded top set once when there was a flush warning and three all ins ahead of me to move up in prize money. (Craziest hand ever )
if this is true you should stop playing poker
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04-21-2015 , 04:55 PM
Flat pre, check/re-raise all-in otf. Not folding as played.
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04-22-2015 , 04:35 AM
gosh, don't flat pre, get it in

and don't post results, no one cares, neither should you
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04-22-2015 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mashxx
gosh, don't flat pre, get it in

and don't post results, no one cares, neither should you
+1

Once you flat pre, the plan is to fold to a squeeze from 1 or 2? Isolating by making it 8000 pre avoids multiway mishaps.
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04-22-2015 , 07:04 PM
The thing is, there would be no isolation here. Villian one would have played back at me with whatever he had, which is fine, because I'm thinking I've got his range crushed. The second guy did not call raises light EVER. He has premiums only. That is my read on both of them.
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04-23-2015 , 08:10 PM
Snap jam pre. If you'd have done that then V2 would have nit-folded his AQ.
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04-24-2015 , 02:14 AM
Definitley enough out there for merit of ripping it in pre.

As played never ever folding. UL mate
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