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08-27-2016 , 09:53 AM
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 4,000/8,000 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

About 35 left, ~8k up top. We have recently moved to table, raised utg, getting folds around, and called a 12bb shove from mp w AA, and held. Obv very small sample on villains..curious on our 3b range here, and if we are polarized, where we draw the line from ~value/fold, to blocker/fold or whatever. What does our overcall range 25bb eff look like here?
Good spot, or are we punting too much bb equity, at this stage

SB: 280,758 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BB: 115,424 (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 53)
UTG: 208,100 (VPIP: 24.02, PFR: 16.70, 3Bet Preflop: 9.62, Hands: 519)
UTG+1: 224,443 (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 15.22, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 93)
MP: 149,705 (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 11.70, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 100)
MP+1: 326,228 (VPIP: 23.46, PFR: 18.52, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 81)
CO: 123,916 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (BTN): 198,114

8 players post ante of 800, SB posts SB 4,000, BB posts BB 8,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 18,400) Hero has A 9

fold, UTG+1 raises to 17,777, fold, MP+1 calls 17,777, fold, Hero raises to 51,755, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 325,428 and is all-in
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08-27-2016 , 12:10 PM
I just fold here, think youīre repping really thin to this sizing prolly only JJ+ into 2 somewhat tight ranges and since you could have a wide flatting range, doubt you get enough credit to get this through as villains will perceive this a dream squeeze spot for you.
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08-28-2016 , 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by zanardi1
I just fold here, think youīre repping really thin to this sizing prolly only JJ+ into 2 somewhat tight ranges and since you could have a wide flatting range, doubt you get enough credit to get this through as villains will perceive this a dream squeeze spot for you.
Agree.
Also, flat pre the first time
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08-28-2016 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by OutPlayU27
Agree.
Also, flat pre the first time
Ya, this was my dilemma, if we are deep enough to overcall A9s, here, and how wide we would overcall in this spot. Like zan said earlier tho, our 3b range is ext narrow, but I really couldn't do much w my sizing, w/o really upping variance, and piling pre, and really didn't like that option, given the current dynamic
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08-28-2016 , 10:42 PM
I'd prob just stick to call and shove ranges. I'd usually call this hand at this stage of the tournament. Worse AsXs are pretty close but I probably fold most of those. AT/AJ can be either or and AQ+ seems like it should be a shove mostly.
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08-29-2016 , 03:54 AM
Just folding this. A9s plays poorly vs both with low spr.
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08-31-2016 , 09:27 AM
yeah I really don't like the 3 bet fold option here as your stack cant afford a hit like that and unfortunately I think you made this play in the worst possible position at the table. I prefer just folding this pre and pick a better spot.
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08-31-2016 , 09:45 AM
it's -ev to squeeze and it's -ev to flat here as 3rd boys, just fold it

if mp1 was opening and hj flatted than it would make some sense to squeeze here,but when utg1 is opening A9s looks very weak... i would prefer we have KJo KQo QJo type of hand here or T9s or smt that plays good vs their opening ranges or has good blockers...

also 2.9x sizing is bad imo as u give guy that flatted killer odds to not fold ever, like 33k for 138k pot (roughly) and he wont fold his range EVER if he's decent... he will flat KJs KQs and shove 99 TT JJ AQ AK(in decent amount of time)

so just this is easy fold imo
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09-01-2016 , 09:47 AM
Didnīt realized OR was UTG+1, so yeah folding pre is the way to go
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09-01-2016 , 09:53 AM
Easy fold, no options)
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09-01-2016 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by furo
Just folding this. A9s plays poorly vs both with low spr.
Agree, even IP.
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09-01-2016 , 04:53 PM
Would rather flat A2ss-A5ss, fold first time. would call or 3bet if you were slightly deeper
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