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Old 08-05-2013, 12:51 PM   #76
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

No Limit Hold'em Tournament T4,000/T8,000
Buy-in: $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
9 players

Same tourney, another preflop spot

UTG - 17/23 - Solid stats on OPR
BTN - 10/14 - Losing player on OPR - He blinded down to 5bb and shoved with 78suited and tripled up 6 hands before this one. 3 hands later he 3xd from first position with JJ and got it in vs KK and doubled again...

Thought it was very close between flat and 3 bet preflop but decided to see a flop in position. Any advice appreciated..

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T251,239)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T296,640)
UTG+2 - UTG+2 (T522,020)
MP - MP (T160,584)
MP2 - Hero (T209,533)
CO - CO (T179,060)
BTN - BTN (T252,608)
SB - SB (T81,611)
BB - BB (T499,671)

Preflop: (T19,200, 9 players) Hero is MP2 with 9 9
UTG raises to T18,500, 3 folds, Hero calls T18,500, 1 fold, BTN raises to T76,000, Hero?
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Old 08-05-2013, 01:13 PM   #77
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

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too stubborn? pretty sure villain is retarded

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 50/100 Blinds 10 Ante (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (MP2) (t8,960)
CO (t1,674)
Button (t2,805)
SB (t4,186)
BB (t5,400)
UTG (t4,749)
UTG+1 (t4,355)
MP1 (t6,070)

Hero's M: 38.96

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t430, 1 fold, Hero raises to t950, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls t520

Flop: (t2,130) 6, 8, A (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t2,130) 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t1,550, Hero calls t1,550

River: (t5,230) 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t1,845 (All-In), Hero calls t1,845

Total pot: t8,920
I generally always bet A high flops if checked to in position with JJ/QQ/KK just because you get into so many bad spots on later streets if you check back.

Betting the flop defines your opponents range very clearly for later streets if they call (people very rarely float OOP on A high flops) and the majority of the time they will check the turn which gives you a chance to take a free card and evaluate any subsequent river bet.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:14 PM   #78
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

$11c.
Was moved to table 2 hands ago.

OR is 17/14 in 100 hands. Opens 12% utg. Reg I guess (reviewing my runs)
Bunch of ..... behind him.
SB has ok stats but calling getting zillion-1, so no worries I guess.

Briefly I see math would say hands which have 30% vs 99/AQ are +ev [massively] assuming he opens 12% and don`t fold 99/AQ with his stack.
But what`s your in-game feeling - how wide do we shove?


PokerStars - $10+$1|600/1200 Ante 125 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: 35,404.00
Hero (BB): 42,493.00
UTG: 31,793.00
UTG+1: 127,950.00
MP: 13,957.00
MP+1: 36,734.00
CO: 30,209.00

BTN: 76,277.00

SB posts ante 125.00, Hero posts ante 125.00, UTG posts ante 125.00, UTG+1 posts ante 125.00, MP posts ante 125.00, MP+1 posts ante 125.00, CO posts ante 125.00, BTN posts ante 125.00, SB posts SB 600.00, Hero posts BB 1,200.00

Pre Flop: (2800.00) Hero has

fold, UTG+1 raises to 2,400.00, fold, MP+1 calls 2,400.00, CO calls 2,400.00, fold, SB calls 1,800.00, Hero raises to 42,368.00 and is all-in
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:41 PM   #79
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

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No Limit Hold'em Tournament T6,000/T12,000
Buy-in: $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit
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8 players

Sunday Million - 200 Players left

MP2 stats - 17/23 over 69 hands

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T384,051)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T703,842)
MP - MP (T218,939)
MP2 - MP2 (T260,040)
CO - CO (T421,619)
BTN - Hero (T152,433)
SB - SB (T438,210)
BB - BB (T336,683)

Preflop: (T27,600, 8 players) Hero is BTN with 3 3
3 folds, MP2 raises to T24,000, 1 fold, Hero?
77+, AJo/ATs, KQo, QJs+ ish seems good to me off the top of my head


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No Limit Hold'em Tournament T4,000/T8,000
Buy-in: $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
9 players

Same tourney, another preflop spot

UTG - 17/23 - Solid stats on OPR
BTN - 10/14 - Losing player on OPR - He blinded down to 5bb and shoved with 78suited and tripled up 6 hands before this one. 3 hands later he 3xd from first position with JJ and got it in vs KK and doubled again...

Thought it was very close between flat and 3 bet preflop but decided to see a flop in position. Any advice appreciated..

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T251,239)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T296,640)
UTG+2 - UTG+2 (T522,020)
MP - MP (T160,584)
MP2 - Hero (T209,533)
CO - CO (T179,060)
BTN - BTN (T252,608)
SB - SB (T81,611)
BB - BB (T499,671)

Preflop: (T19,200, 9 players) Hero is MP2 with 9 9
UTG raises to T18,500, 3 folds, Hero calls T18,500, 1 fold, BTN raises to T76,000, Hero?
3b pre if dynamic calls for it. Flatting is fine tho. I presume utg folded to the 3b but its a pretty close spot. Doubt I'm folding TT.

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Old 08-06-2013, 01:00 AM   #80
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TStone $350 75k
400/800 100

Utg 30k: kinda tight, opens 2k
Hero, sb 17.8k edit: QQ: shoves or 3b/c? I shoved and didn't love it. At how many bb is shove>3b/c?
Bb is nitty

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Old 08-06-2013, 01:22 AM   #81
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

depends what you have, but dont think you should 3b/c anything.
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:27 AM   #82
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

tbone: always shove against this open size
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:37 AM   #83
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No Limit Hold'em Tournament T6,000/T12,000
Buy-in: $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
8 players

Sunday Million - 200 Players left

MP2 stats - 17/23 over 69 hands

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T384,051)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T703,842)
MP - MP (T218,939)
MP2 - MP2 (T260,040)
CO - CO (T421,619)
BTN - Hero (T152,433)
SB - SB (T438,210)
BB - BB (T336,683)

Preflop: (T27,600, 8 players) Hero is BTN with 3 3
3 folds, MP2 raises to T24,000, 1 fold, Hero?

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77+, AJo/ATs, KQo, QJs+ ish seems good to me off the top of my head
disagree, way too tight, 22+, all suited broadways, ATo, KQo, A8s. Your range would be good if we had any indication that villain is solid tag, that's probably not the case. I'm sure he's opening either too much or not calling enough.

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No Limit Hold'em Tournament T4,000/T8,000
Buy-in: $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
9 players

Same tourney, another preflop spot

UTG - 17/23 - Solid stats on OPR
BTN - 10/14 - Losing player on OPR - He blinded down to 5bb and shoved with 78suited and tripled up 6 hands before this one. 3 hands later he 3xd from first position with JJ and got it in vs KK and doubled again...

Thought it was very close between flat and 3 bet preflop but decided to see a flop in position. Any advice appreciated..

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T251,239)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T296,640)
UTG+2 - UTG+2 (T522,020)
MP - MP (T160,584)
MP2 - Hero (T209,533)
CO - CO (T179,060)
BTN - BTN (T252,608)
SB - SB (T81,611)
BB - BB (T499,671)

Preflop: (T19,200, 9 players) Hero is MP2 with 9 9
UTG raises to T18,500, 3 folds, Hero calls T18,500, 1 fold, BTN raises to T76,000, Hero?
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3b pre if dynamic calls for it. Flatting is fine tho. I presume utg folded to the 3b but its a pretty close spot. Doubt I'm folding TT.
oh yes, I'm not even second guessing myself and get in with TT happily, probably AQs and 99 too.
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:26 AM   #84
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No Limit Hold'em Tournament T1,000/T2,000
Buy-in: $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
8 players

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T27,779)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T47,162)
MP - MP (T50,973)
MP2 - MP2 (T73,944)
CO - CO (T51,132)
BTN - BTN (T31,784)
SB - SB (T36,863)
BB - Hero (T108,720)

Preflop: (T4,600, 8 players) Hero is BB with J 9
2 folds, MP raises to T4,000, 3 folds, SB calls T3,000, Hero calls T2,000

Flop: 2 9 5 (T13,600, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets T5,440, SB raises to T12,000, Hero?

Push / Call / Fold?

SB stats = 8/11 over 72 hands
MP stats = 31/37 over 49 hands
think this deserves its own thread, jamming flop is simple and not a well thought out option imo. yes we gii with ok equity vs sb always but never with gr8 equity. I think we can call and fold if mp gets it in or something cuz we're obv not good vs him at least and if we're not good vs him than we are drawing dead vs sb raising range (or vice versa).
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:22 AM   #85
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

I probably just call as well given that we have position on SB.
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:01 AM   #86
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I think position on the SB is less important when we consider his stack. He has 18 BB's to start the hand, it'd be harder if we were deeper but as the effective stacks are 25bb's not so much.

So don't fold and it doesn't matter
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oh, sorry, good point dereds, didn't notice his stack
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:23 AM   #88
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

Hot $44.

Open-shover is a random clown who was absolytely randomly opening random suited rubbish e.t.c.
Guess he shoves 65% at least.

3b-shover is Mr.Mori. He`s aware about clown, so I guess it can loosen his range a bit but still he`s playing solid mostly.


PokerStars - $40+$4|200/400 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: 10,479.00
UTG+1: 11,004.00
MP: 15,437.00
MP+1: 2,158.00
LP: 13,934.00
CO: 4,460.00
BTN: 7,100.00
SB: 4,047.00
Hero (BB): 8,146.00

UTG posts ante 50.00, UTG+1 posts ante 50.00, MP posts ante 50.00, MP+1 posts ante 50.00, LP posts ante 50.00, CO posts ante 50.00, BTN posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, Hero posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 200.00, Hero posts BB 400.00

Pre Flop: (1050.00) Hero has J 9

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2,108.00 and is all-in, fold, CO raises to 4,410.00 and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero...

I need ~35% and have 28%.
But range I assigned to Mickey contains tons of dominating hands.
I probably run better if I should loosen his range a bit. (just takes lots of time to stove)

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.110% 25.94% 01.17% 193746326700 8736549400.67 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 83s+, 73s+, 63s+, 53s+, 43s, 32s, A2o+, K4o+, Q5o+, J6o+, T6o+, 97o+, 87o }
Hand 1: 44.277% 43.23% 01.05% 322875537088 7827685204.67 { 77+, A5s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, A8o+, KJo+, QJo }
Hand 2: 28.613% 27.87% 00.74% 208180352952 5529988174.67 { J9s }

What do you think about spot and ranges?
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

Hotter $22.
2ft. Im above average - one of CLs I guess.

Villian is small-stakes reg with somewhat ok results.
22/17 in 40 hands.

Game was really tight, all shortstacks were on payjump ladder, folding 5bb otb e.t.c.... prev. hand was folded to me in BB.

I thought I`d prefer blockers in such game and folded 77.
What my range should be here?
Should we consider ICM and nittiness of the table as our edge [which should make our range tighter here]?

PokerStars - $20+$2|7000/14000 Ante 1750 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): 258,600.00
BB: 182,415.00
UTG: 65,020.00
UTG+1: 86,420.00
MP: 172,071.00
CO: 84,316.00
BTN: 105,999.00

Hero posts ante 1,750.00, BB posts ante 1,750.00, UTG posts ante 1,750.00, UTG+1 posts ante 1,750.00, MP posts ante 1,750.00, CO posts ante 1,750.00, BTN posts ante 1,750.00, Hero posts SB 7,000.00, BB posts BB 14,000.00

Pre Flop: (33250.00) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, MP raises to 170,321.00 and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero...

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Old 08-13-2013, 03:55 AM   #93
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

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22c.
Seems really std vs active regs, but villain is tight supernova.
9/9 in 160 hands.

Idk how tight he can be from HJ with 10bb.
I assigned him 18.5% 44+,A5s+,K9s+,QTs+,J9s+,T9s,A8o+,KJo+,QJo
and with players behind shove is -0.3bb.

What range do you assign him, what do you shove?
[guys behind have std reg tight stats, BB is a bit looser]

PokerStars - $20+$2|400/800 Ante 75 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP+1: 9,873.00
LP: 8,217.00
Hero (CO): 32,706.00
BTN: 13,662.00
SB: 11,457.00
BB: 18,759.00
UTG: 56,902.00
UTG+1: 25,629.00
MP: 25,493.00

MP+1 posts ante 75.00, LP posts ante 75.00, Hero posts ante 75.00, BTN posts ante 75.00, SB posts ante 75.00, BB posts ante 75.00, UTG posts ante 75.00, UTG+1 posts ante 75.00, MP posts ante 75.00, SB posts SB 400.00, BB posts BB 800.00

Pre Flop: (1875.00) Hero has 9 A

fold, fold, fold, fold, LP raises to 8,142.00 and is all-in, Hero...
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:12 AM   #94
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Think 77 is the top of my folding range in your first hand if the table is really tight and you can get away with an infinite amount of steals instead of flipping for the CL.

In the second hand I'd include 22/33, all suited aces and KTo in his shoving range, so I'm guessing it'll be a ~BE reshove.
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pab go party
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:37 AM   #96
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14 left in 22$ 12k guara. Sb is crushing reg. Haven't played against him before, but I know the sn. Has just moved to the table couple hands ago, so no actual reads how he plays, but he has already re-shoved over open twice. BB plays 33/22/8,6 (180 hands) and does not like to fold. I am playing 17/14 (40% steal from bu), but obv sb doesn't know that. Anyone like shove better than r/c in this spot.

    Poker Stars, $20 Buy-in (3,000/6,000 blinds, 750 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18892091

    CO: 126,302 (21.1 bb)
    Hero (BTN): 127,241 (21.2 bb)
    SB: 128,936 (21.5 bb)
    BB: 190,270 (31.7 bb)
    UTG+2: 93,557 (15.6 bb)
    MP1: 83,573 (13.9 bb)
    MP2: 153,103 (25.5 bb)
    MP3: 295,780 (49.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 7
    5 folds

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    Old 08-14-2013, 06:06 AM   #97
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    you have perfect reads for r/c and you want to open shove? where is common sense?
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    Old 08-14-2013, 06:16 AM   #98
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    you have perfect reads for r/c and you want to open shove? where is common sense?
    3 final tables in 2 days where winner gets 3k+ and getting under 1k from all of them combined makes me question every f decision

    Edit: and I didn't shove, I r/c and and won the hand.

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    Old 08-14-2013, 06:33 AM   #99
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    dude, mtts are a *****, winning players experience 3k-5k stretches like that. If you keep getting that in 6 months then you can complain (although it helps no one), just keep playing your best and it will turn around eventually.
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    Old 08-14-2013, 08:14 PM   #100
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    Villain is an unknown, opened A2s in ep some hands ago. What do we like?


    [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $8 Buy-in (5,000/10,000 blinds, 1,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    Hero (MP2): 140,850 (14.1 bb)
    MP3: 19,063 (1.9 bb)
    CO: 6,034 (0.6 bb)
    BTN: 145,474 (14.5 bb)
    SB: 64,744 (6.5 bb)
    BB: 244,903 (24.5 bb)
    MP1: 163,280 (16.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9 9
    MP1 folds, Hero raises to 20,000, MP3 folds, CO calls 5,034 and is all-in, 2 folds, BB calls 10,000

    Flop: (57,034) 8 Q 4 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
    BB checks,
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