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Old 07-24-2013, 04:30 PM   #26
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

Could really use a linecheck here. I know this may seem standard for some of you but I'm not really sure so please no trolling response. 2k -20freezout guarantee. Right on the bubble, 15 pay, 16 left.
Not sure if this could be just really unlucky to run into tophands, or b/c im like 10th in chips I should be more conservative right on bubble to guarantee $50 and a shot still at going deep?




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8 players
[SB] WhyMeSoBad (30568)
[BB] 29lassedl29 (15664)
[1] Rodjer1986 (34222)
[2] asvang (25102)
[3] zkhrnsk (17202)
[4] JosiahW (5677)
[5] jamilanov (61719)
[But] Ozmosis31631 (13226)

Ozmosis31631 :As :2s Initial Pot: 1800

Rodjer1986 folds
asvang folds
zkhrnsk folds
JosiahW folds
jamilanov folds
Ozmosis31631 raises to 13106
WhyMeSoBad folds
29lassedl29 calls 11906
### FLOP ### :Qh :8h :5h Pot: 26812
### TURN ### :3s Pot: 26812
### RIVER ### :9d Pot: 26812
29lassedl29 shows :Ts :Tc
Ozmosis31631 shows :As :2s
29lassedl29 wins 26812 from the main pot with A Pair of tens
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:44 PM   #27
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

seems std
how are you still pre ante?
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:18 PM   #28
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

Dereds my post is advice disguised as trolling. He can extrapolate backwards whatever his 8ball says.

Latest hand is totally standard assuming blinds are 600/1200
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:47 PM   #29
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

I don't know whats going on in that other hand. I would have done everyaction different.
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:44 PM   #30
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You really should put other hands in your 3bbluff range.
I like the lead but his raise is mostly strong, so your 3b is pretty meh.
Obv fold now, the few combos you beat otf now crush you and he ain't folding if you jam
I 3bet for value Furo vs random and as you say BB-BTN.

Considering all rubbish he could raise vs lead I think maybe shoving turn > c/f.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:01 AM   #31
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

No Limit Hold'em Tournament T1,000/T2,000
Buy-in: $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
8 players

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T27,779)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T47,162)
MP - MP (T50,973)
MP2 - MP2 (T73,944)
CO - CO (T51,132)
BTN - BTN (T31,784)
SB - SB (T36,863)
BB - Hero (T108,720)

Preflop: (T4,600, 8 players) Hero is BB with J 9
2 folds, MP raises to T4,000, 3 folds, SB calls T3,000, Hero calls T2,000

Flop: 2 9 5 (T13,600, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets T5,440, SB raises to T12,000, Hero?

Push / Call / Fold?

SB stats = 8/11 over 72 hands
MP stats = 31/37 over 49 hands
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:57 AM   #32
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I 3bet for value Furo vs random and as you say BB-BTN.

Considering all rubbish he could raise vs lead I think maybe shoving turn > c/f.
Totally different spot and over pairs a) beat more value combos and b) block less of his
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:13 AM   #33
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

Its pretty obv sbs range is ahead. I would call and if mp raises, gii. If mp folds, see how much the bet is on the turn.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:49 AM   #34
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

I like a reraise here to like 24,000, the original raiser would be hardpressed to continue given the action even with an overpair. And if he does your equity is fine. I'd be happy to get it in with the sb, I think he has a lot of bare flush draws in his range.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:12 AM   #35
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

$5 1 r 1 add on. Are we shoving this pre or flatting readless vs a brazilian reg?






[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (625/1,250 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

unknown (CO): 20,298 (16.2 bb)
unknown(BTN): 27,155 (21.7 bb)
Hero (SB): 54,982 (44 bb)
villian (BB): 42,017 (33.6 bb)
unknown (UTG+2): 36,016 (28.8 bb)
unknown (MP1): 27,653 (22.1 bb)
unknown (MP2): 67,961 (54.4 bb)
unknown(MP3): 48,572 (38.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
unknown calls 1,250, 5 folds, Hero raises to 4,400 villan raises to 10,690, unknown folds, Hero ?

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Old 07-26-2013, 09:08 AM   #36
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

def dont flat
purely bvb its an easy shove.
readless I want to fold here and shove like 99/AK.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:10 AM   #37
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

5$r 10k gtd

34 left. I have villain 23/19/6 in 150 hands from previous tournaments. Villain got moved in my table couple hands ago, so no reads from this tourney. I don't remember him, but screename sounds familiar. MP is random who is playing 17/11/8.3. LOL 4b/c or what?


    Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (1,250/2,500 blinds, 250 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18608161

    MP3: 79,335 (31.7 bb)
    CO: 173,074 (69.2 bb)
    BTN: 161,773 (64.7 bb)
    SB: 27,437 (11 bb)
    Hero (BB): 140,650 (56.3 bb)
    UTG+2: 122,991 (49.2 bb)
    MP1: 181,038 (72.4 bb)
    MP2: 97,615 (39 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
    3 folds, MP3 raises to 5,000, CO raises to 15,000, 2 folds

    Spoiler:



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    Old 07-26-2013, 10:22 AM   #38
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    Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

    anyone shoving?
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    Old 07-26-2013, 10:46 AM   #39
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    Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

    Sure. Shoving the last 2.
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    Old 07-26-2013, 11:02 AM   #40
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    Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

    Quote:
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    No Limit Hold'em Tournament T1,000/T2,000
    Buy-in: $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit
    PokerStars
    8 players

    Stacks:
    UTG - UTG (T27,779)
    UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T47,162)
    MP - MP (T50,973)
    MP2 - MP2 (T73,944)
    CO - CO (T51,132)
    BTN - BTN (T31,784)
    SB - SB (T36,863)
    BB - Hero (T108,720)

    Preflop: (T4,600, 8 players) Hero is BB with J 9
    2 folds, MP raises to T4,000, 3 folds, SB calls T3,000, Hero calls T2,000

    Flop: 2 9 5 (T13,600, 3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets T5,440, SB raises to T12,000, Hero?

    Push / Call / Fold?

    SB stats = 8/11 over 72 hands
    MP stats = 31/37 over 49 hands
    Just shove it in.

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    $5 1 r 1 add on. Are we shoving this pre or flatting readless vs a brazilian reg?






    [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (625/1,250 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    unknown (CO): 20,298 (16.2 bb)
    unknown(BTN): 27,155 (21.7 bb)
    Hero (SB): 54,982 (44 bb)
    villian (BB): 42,017 (33.6 bb)
    unknown (UTG+2): 36,016 (28.8 bb)
    unknown (MP1): 27,653 (22.1 bb)
    unknown (MP2): 67,961 (54.4 bb)
    unknown(MP3): 48,572 (38.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
    unknown calls 1,250, 5 folds, Hero raises to 4,400 villan raises to 10,690, unknown folds, Hero ?
    Pretty sure brazillian reg read makes me more than happy to get it in here.

    Quote:
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    5$r 10k gtd

    34 left. I have villain 23/19/6 in 150 hands from previous tournaments. Villain got moved in my table couple hands ago, so no reads from this tourney. I don't remember him, but screename sounds familiar. MP is random who is playing 17/11/8.3. LOL 4b/c or what?


      Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (1,250/2,500 blinds, 250 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18608161

      MP3: 79,335 (31.7 bb)
      CO: 173,074 (69.2 bb)
      BTN: 161,773 (64.7 bb)
      SB: 27,437 (11 bb)
      Hero (BB): 140,650 (56.3 bb)
      UTG+2: 122,991 (49.2 bb)
      MP1: 181,038 (72.4 bb)
      MP2: 97,615 (39 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
      3 folds, MP3 raises to 5,000, CO raises to 15,000, 2 folds

      Spoiler:



      Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.
      I think 4b/c is better than shove here, depends on how have you been playing.
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      Old 07-26-2013, 11:12 AM   #41
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      Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

      imo every aspect of the hand tells it will hard to convince them we can be often light here with cold-non-ai-4b.
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      Old 07-26-2013, 12:14 PM   #42
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      Yea but what's your shove range fella? At least you might have a 4b/f range. I agree with shove anyway. Just wondering how wide you shove. Like if people don't shove and are worried about not getting value then a wider shove can be profitable.
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      Old 07-26-2013, 09:00 PM   #43
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      relatively deep in a tournament big stack limped early, I think he usually does but not sure. a bunch of people limp behind. blinds are 2-4 hundred. I have aj suited in sb and make it 1600, bb shoves all in for about 4100. The big stack around the same as mine cold calls this shove. Now its folded around to me. Not sure what to do, I was snapping off the bb but the cold call throws me off. I consider all options really. we both have about 12k effective. What's your default in this situation?
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      Old 07-26-2013, 09:36 PM   #44
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      pre needs to be alot bigger. was the big stack the first limper or one of the later ones? i am shoving pending live reads.
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      Old 07-26-2013, 10:08 PM   #45
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      first.
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      Old 07-26-2013, 10:26 PM   #46
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      stop and go
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      Old 07-26-2013, 10:58 PM   #47
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      lollllll. you trolling me wtf. just jam into any board and pray?
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      Old 07-26-2013, 11:22 PM   #48
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      not every one but i think his range is mostly small pairs and AQ and its gonna be hard to make him fold pre. hard to say without looking at him or assessing the situation. i think we have more fold equity after a flop than we do pre flop and a big enough stack to do it.
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      Old 07-27-2013, 11:22 PM   #49
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      not every one but i think his range is mostly small pairs and AQ and its gonna be hard to make him fold pre. hard to say without looking at him or assessing the situation. i think we have more fold equity after a flop than we do pre flop and a big enough stack to do it.
      i think we should shove, if it looks like weakness it is most of the time, he got the action he wanted if he has a monster and should shove for protection, but then again he limped so he is way weaker than AJs a lot, also you'll get some folds and there will be dead money, so it's def a shove a lot of the times, sometimes i just fold, def an option with reads and after making it too little pre

      pre i could see completing or just shoving it all in the first time it gets to us, 30bb is a lot though so not sure about that, that leaves us with completing and flopmining
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      Old 07-28-2013, 03:31 PM   #50
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      Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

      $33c.
      Close to money spot. (which is ~$150)

      Villains can rarely be better, he plays snug, 16/11/6 in 120 hands.
      No history. I was snug too.

      Wug?
      Cramming or maybe you would like smth else under described cicrumstances?

      PokerStars - $30+$3|625/1250 Ante 150 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BB: 60,713.00
      UTG: 27,992.00
      UTG+1: 33,467.00
      MP: 36,196.00
      MP+1: 47,033.00
      CO: 66,211.00
      BTN: 7,897.00
      Hero (SB): 27,679.00

      BB posts ante 150.00, UTG posts ante 150.00, UTG+1 posts ante 150.00, MP posts ante 150.00, MP+1 posts ante 150.00, CO posts ante 150.00, BTN posts ante 150.00, Hero posts ante 150.00, Hero posts SB 625.00, BB posts BB 1,250.00

      Pre Flop: (3075.00) Hero has 2 2

      fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero...
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