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12-13-2013 , 01:01 AM
is ok or spewy?
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12-13-2013 , 04:27 AM
havent read all description for obv. reasons.
but it looks horrible.
Idk like pre and dont like post.

you block NFDs and obv foldimg after c/r.
And he could bet or c/f vs air in dependence of how he perceive your range for flatting.
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12-13-2013 , 11:31 PM
line ok? i tanked the river, but i think the price is ok vv range?

had been at table for just over one orbit (late reg) and found AA first hand (stacked a 2k) and two other OR, cbet, win spots. my image was more active than it deserved.
OR is readless, but BTN is fit/fold/bad



    Poker Stars, $50 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21503401

    MP2: 3,941 (78.8 bb)
    MP3: 3,090 (61.8 bb)
    CO: 3,805 (76.1 bb)
    BTN: 3,215 (64.3 bb)
    SB: 3,119 (62.4 bb)
    Hero (BB): 5,726 (114.5 bb)
    UTG+1: 3,120 (62.4 bb)
    UTG+2: 3,255 (65.1 bb)
    MP1: 3,000 (60 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J K
    UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 100, 4 folds, BTN calls 100, SB folds, Hero calls 50

    Flop: (325) K T Q (3 players)
    Hero bets 175, UTG+2 calls 175, BTN folds

    Turn: (675) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets 225, UTG+2 calls 225

    River: (1,125) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+2 bets 600, Hero calls 600



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    Last edited by oldsilver; 12-13-2013 at 11:43 PM.
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    12-15-2013 , 06:25 AM
    more ott
    c/f river
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    12-15-2013 , 06:55 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WashUrHandsPlz
    more ott
    c/f river
    how do u range him?
    (i'm changing up my game atm to lead out more when defending, so it's unfamiliar territory for me.)
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    12-19-2013 , 09:23 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by oldsilver
    line ok? i tanked the river, but i think the price is ok vv range?

    had been at table for just over one orbit (late reg) and found AA first hand (stacked a 2k) and two other OR, cbet, win spots. my image was more active than it deserved.
    OR is readless, but BTN is fit/fold/bad



      Poker Stars, $50 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21503401

      MP2: 3,941 (78.8 bb)
      MP3: 3,090 (61.8 bb)
      CO: 3,805 (76.1 bb)
      BTN: 3,215 (64.3 bb)
      SB: 3,119 (62.4 bb)
      Hero (BB): 5,726 (114.5 bb)
      UTG+1: 3,120 (62.4 bb)
      UTG+2: 3,255 (65.1 bb)
      MP1: 3,000 (60 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J K
      UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 100, 4 folds, BTN calls 100, SB folds, Hero calls 50

      Flop: (325) K T Q (3 players)
      Hero bets 175, UTG+2 calls 175, BTN folds

      Turn: (675) 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets 225, UTG+2 calls 225

      River: (1,125) 8 (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG+2 bets 600, Hero calls 600



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      Don't think he'd flat flopped 2 purr or set...
      Range: AT, K8?,AA?,JJ?, Q9, QJ, AQ, KJ, and a bunch of flushcombos. Think AJ, J9 might've raised turn. And I would raise flop if I had Adxd aswell.
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      12-20-2013 , 03:18 AM
      i always discount draws from the OR and bias his range towards Ax/paint + i have Kd blocker to fd's, so the line was for value against Qx Tx and c/c made sense otr. right or wrong, he did have AQ.
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      12-22-2013 , 04:48 PM
      Why do you lead right out as opposed to playing in flow and checking? Usually I check decide these spots b/c it can get very awkward if the initial opener raises this lead.

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      i always discount draws from the OR and bias his range towards Ax/paint + i have Kd blocker to fd's, so the line was for value against Qx Tx and c/c made sense otr. right or wrong, he did have AQ.
      How often will Qx and Tx bet the river though when checked to, as opposed to take a free showdown? Here he did value bet thin I guesse. However overall if you think he has very few flush draws as opposed to qx and tx maybe is better to continue on the river and bet out small again as you have been doing on previous streets. Unless he will turn weak showdown into a bluff. So you are making sure you get value from those hands.
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      12-22-2013 , 07:41 PM
      Winamax - €4.50+€0.50|15000/30000 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      CO: 28.99 BB (VPIP: 30.54, PFR: 17.90, 3Bet Preflop: 7.81, Hands: 171)
      BTN: 25.15 BB (VPIP: 12.95, PFR: 10.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.19, Hands: 1,887)
      Hero (SB): 26.76 BB
      BB: 42.29 BB (VPIP: 13.11, PFR: 10.75, 3Bet Preflop: 5.79, Hands: 968)
      UTG: 52.8 BB (VPIP: 26.00, PFR: 13.00, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 106)

      5 players post ante of 0.14 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Ft, villain is bad/mediocre reg with profit and 44% fcb


      Pre Flop: (pot: 2.22 BB) Hero has 2 Q

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, BB calls 1 BB

      Flop: (4.72 BB, 2 players) Q 9 9
      Hero bets 2.36 BB, BB calls 2.36 BB

      Turn: (9.43 BB, 2 players) A
      Hero checks, BB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

      River: (17.43 BB, 2 players) 6
      Hero checks, BB bets 7 BB, fold
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      12-22-2013 , 11:58 PM
      2.5x pre
      either c/f or b/f turn. don't like b/c and ducy otr?
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      12-23-2013 , 12:32 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by oldsilver
      2.5x pre
      either c/f or b/f turn. don't like b/c and ducy otr?
      why bet an ace ott tho? we're not bluffing and not so many worse things calling, right?
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      12-23-2013 , 01:44 PM
      968 hands with villain, how does he play post flop?

      I like b/f on turn vs aggro/floaty villains, checking gives too much free equity and gives him the initiative in this spot where he can rep quite a bit that beats us. If you don't think he peels flop too wide, we can prob just sigh c/f turn. I don't like c/c very much. River I'd sooner jam than call but I would just fold probably.
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      12-24-2013 , 06:24 AM
      slightly more pre,flop
      b/f turn
      c/f river
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      12-28-2013 , 04:52 AM
      I had 13bb and min raise. TAG (had been folding to my raise previously) on the button reraised to 4bb. What might be the best decision? Shld I fold and wait for the better spot or all in? Or call n check fold if I miss my 8 and board is higher cards than 8?
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      12-28-2013 , 02:26 PM
      Winamax - €9+€1|150/300 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 84.96 BB (VPIP: 21.61, PFR: 9.53, 3Bet Preflop: 3.53, Hands: 478)
      Hero (SB): 84.92 BB
      BB: 74.5 BB (VPIP: 21.57, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 51)
      UTG: 125.58 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
      MP: 64 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 45)
      CO: 60.31 BB (VPIP: 32.37, PFR: 9.70, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 140)

      Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A T

      UTG calls 1 BB, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold, UTG calls 2 BB

      Flop: (13 BB, 4 players) 2 A K
      Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets 6.33 BB, CO calls 6.33 BB, Hero calls 6.33 BB, fold

      Turn: (31.99 BB, 3 players) 7
      Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

      River: (31.99 BB, 3 players) 9
      Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

      its more to profitable to just play post flop than to squeeze against these 2 right? Also i have no idea what our squeeze range "should" be here.
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      12-30-2013 , 06:33 PM
      Winamax - €18+€2|2500/5000 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (CO): 36.04 BB
      BTN: 37.24 BB (VPIP: 16.54, PFR: 11.87, 3Bet Preflop: 6.35, Hands: 1,047)
      SB: 50.53 BB (VPIP: 23.42, PFR: 16.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.26, Hands: 114)
      BB: 90.22 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 15)
      UTG: 14.73 BB (VPIP: 27.52, PFR: 9.22, 3Bet Preflop: 5.61, Hands: 223)
      MP: 20.31 BB (VPIP: 14.44, PFR: 11.40, 3Bet Preflop: 0.93, Hands: 280)

      6 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 2.24 BB) Hero has 3 3

      fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, SB raises to 5.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 35.92 BB and is all-in, SB calls 30.42 BB

      Flop: (73.57 BB, 2 players) T Q Q

      Turn: (73.57 BB, 2 players) K

      River: (73.57 BB, 2 players) T

      pretty standard?
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      12-31-2013 , 09:27 AM
      Random $16,50 tourney. Both villains are unknown.



      PokerStars - $15+$1.50|30/60 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      Hero (BTN): 6,902.00
      SB: 3,302.00
      BB: 2,945.00
      UTG: 3,184.00
      UTG+1: 3,585.00
      MP: 2,980.00
      MP+1: 2,726.00
      CO: 6,397.00

      SB posts SB 30.00, BB posts BB 60.00

      Pre Flop: (90.00) Hero has K Q

      fold, UTG+1 raises to 150.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 150.00, fold, BB calls 90.00

      Flop: (480.00, 3 players) 6 7 2
      BB bets 180.00, UTG+1 raises to 450.00, Hero ?



      I ended up folding but looking back now it feels really nitty. Thoughts?
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      12-31-2013 , 10:39 AM
      PW
      ATs - I think pre is fine and Id mostly fold flop oop. rest is std.

      33 - might be spewy considering healthy 35bb stack and it seems he doesnt like to 3bet a lot.
      But yeah you have a pair CO-SB, cant be terrible.

      CC
      agree on folding.
      you're always around neutral cev, but you wont benefit from additional chips at this stage that much having already 2x starting stack.
      Yes occasionally bb leads air and utg raises worse FDs or some 88, 97, but still I think its fine to fold.

      Switch to PT4 bro!! I also was stubborn wirh pt3 and pretty annoyed with PT4 first few days, but then I realized pt4 >>>>> pt3.

      Happy new year guys.
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      01-02-2014 , 05:46 PM
      Happy NY all. 33 hand is big spew v a fairly tight 3b range, esp 36bb deep. KQs hand I like they crying fold
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      01-04-2014 , 10:49 PM
      he's a pretty decent reg (18/14/7)

        Winamax, $18 Buy-in (1,250/2,500 blinds, 320 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #22092921

        SB: 30,672 (12.3 bb)
        BB: 82,250 (32.9 bb)
        MP1: 24,112 (9.6 bb)
        MP2: 87,514 (35 bb)
        MP3: 19,009 (7.6 bb)
        Hero (CO): 44,245 (17.7 bb)
        BTN: 98,000 (39.2 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 9
        MP1 calls 2,500, MP2 raises to 6,250, MP3 folds, Hero raises to 43,925 and is all-in, 4 folds, MP2 calls 37,675

        Flop: (96,340) 7 Q 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        Turn: (96,340) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: (96,340) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: 96,340 pot
        Final Board: 7 Q 5 3 6
        MP2 showed K K and won 96,340 (52,095 net)
        Hero showed 9 9 and lost (-44,245 net)



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        01-04-2014 , 10:52 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Proudwalker
        he's a pretty decent reg (18/14/7)

          Winamax, $18 Buy-in (1,250/2,500 blinds, 320 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #22092921

          SB: 30,672 (12.3 bb)
          BB: 82,250 (32.9 bb)
          MP1: 24,112 (9.6 bb)
          MP2: 87,514 (35 bb)
          MP3: 19,009 (7.6 bb)
          Hero (CO): 44,245 (17.7 bb)
          BTN: 98,000 (39.2 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 9
          MP1 calls 2,500, MP2 raises to 6,250, MP3 folds, Hero raises to 43,925 and is all-in, 4 folds, MP2 calls 37,675

          Flop: (96,340) 7 Q 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
          Turn: (96,340) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
          River: (96,340) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

          Spoiler:
          Results: 96,340 pot
          Final Board: 7 Q 5 3 6
          MP2 showed K K and won 96,340 (52,095 net)
          Hero showed 9 9 and lost (-44,245 net)



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          this one seems like a fold + thank utg for limping
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          01-06-2014 , 11:30 AM
          large field (1000+) live $200 MTT in sunny bethlehem PA. around 120 left, 95 cash.

          4k/8k/1k ante

          hero has AQo in BB and 195k (24bb) behind. folds around to villain in MP who shoves for 112k. villain has been spewing chips in 30 min spent at the table (opening for 4x with less than 20 bbs and folding to 3b pre, etc.).

          folds to hero. standard call right?
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          01-06-2014 , 11:47 AM
          yep
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          01-06-2014 , 11:57 AM
          yep yup
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          01-07-2014 , 07:10 AM
          22 or something left in the 5r. Villain is a reg on the more straightforward side with 3bets, 4% against ep. C/r (sizing?) or c/c?

            Party, $5.50 Buy-in (2,500/5,000 blinds, 500 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #22119671

            SB: 46,510 (9.3 bb)
            BB: 272,449 (54.5 bb)
            MP2: 245,270 (49.1 bb)
            BTN: 246,953 (49.4 bb)
            Hero (MP1): 168,411 (33.7 bb)
            CO: 272,290 (54.5 bb)
            MP3: 63,463 (12.7 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A J
            Hero raises to 10,000, MP2 raises to 22,222, 5 folds, Hero calls 12,222

            Flop: (50,449) T 3 5 (2 players)
            Hero checks, MP2 bets 25,755

            Results: 50,449 pot
            Final Board: T 3 5
            MP2 mucked and lost (-48,477 net)
            Hero mucked A J and lost (-22,722 net)



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