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10-09-2013 , 10:42 AM
whats your range on 2 if its not bubble? we're ahead of both of their ranges and gonna just gii vs just one of them usually.
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10-12-2013 , 02:37 AM
anyone?
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10-12-2013 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by tboneparte
anyone?
66+, A8s+, ATo+. Maybe something like that. I hate to throw King high in there when we haven't any money in the pot (except for our blind) and are guaranteed to get called.
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10-12-2013 , 02:49 AM
I feel like SB is showing up here so often with any ace, hence why I don't like including KQ.
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10-12-2013 , 05:48 PM
H1 fold (depends on utg and dynamics though) some only jam ak
H2 jam (its a low buyin)
H3 flat
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10-13-2013 , 12:22 AM
$550 buy in at a live tournament.
Blinds 75/300/600
I've got 9300 left making me the short stack at a full table and nowhere near the money. I've basically been card dead for 4 hours so I have a super tight image. UTG I get pockets 7's and shove.

Given that this was a fairly passive table, I could have opened for 1200 and probably saw a flop with 2-3 callers, check folded a bad flop and waited for the next opportunity to shove.

Any thoughts?
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10-13-2013 , 09:15 AM
It's not within an unexploitable shoving range at this position and stack, but I think shoving is definitely the best play in most live settings. If you're not shoving I'd just open fold. R/c isn't going to be profitable and 77 flops poorly oop.
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10-13-2013 , 12:08 PM
Easy shove. You definitely fold too much. There are like 30 spots in those 4 hours you should have done something else besides fold.
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10-13-2013 , 12:41 PM
You're right, I need to expand my game a bit. Thanks for the responses.
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10-14-2013 , 06:46 AM
Is this just a fold?

$5.50r, re-buy period has just ended, moved to a new table, random Australian makes it 3.75x from MP, we have no hands at all with villain.





    Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19974121

    UTG+1: 4,850 (32.3 bb)
    UTG+2: 3,500 (23.3 bb)
    MP1: 8,222 (54.8 bb)
    MP2: 3,360 (22.4 bb)
    MP3: 8,340 (55.6 bb)
    CO: 9,590 (63.9 bb)
    BTN: 4,700 (31.3 bb)
    Hero (SB): 6,710 (44.7 bb)
    BB: 1,350 (9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A J
    2 folds, MP1 raises to 525, 6 folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 375 pot
    MP1 mucked and won 375 (225 net)



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    10-14-2013 , 08:20 AM
    Yeah fold to that sizing
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    10-14-2013 , 07:11 PM
    Hi I'm new.

    Just wanted thoughts on Turn and River here and how badly I butchered this hand. 60 dollar 20k on Carbon Poker. 0 reads on villain he just got to my table 8 hands ago.

    River I think is super fold a lot of the time as it looks like I am calling tons. Turn bet sizing I am thinking was too small and should have been around 600+.

    Merge No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 30/60 Blinds (8 handed) - Merge Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

    MP1 (t5,137)
    Hero (MP2) (t5,580)
    MP3 (t4,850)
    CO (t5,090)
    SB (t9,539)
    BB (t4,610)
    UTG (t5,000)
    UTG+1 (t4,565)

    Hero's M: 62.00

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, Q
    UTG raises t180, 2 folds, Hero calls t180, 4 folds

    Flop: (t450) K, Q, 7 (2 players)
    UTG bets t240, Hero calls t240

    Turn: (t930) 6 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets t450, UTG calls t450

    River: (t1,830) 3 (2 players)
    UTG bets t1,200, Hero calls t1,200

    Total pot: t4,230

    Spoiler:

    UTG had A, Q (flush, Ace high).
    Hero had A, Q (one pair, Queens).
    Outcome: UTG won t4,230
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    10-14-2013 , 07:26 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hiimnew
    River I think is super fold a lot of the time as it looks like I am calling tons. Turn bet sizing I am thinking was too small and should have been around 600+.
    yes.
    Are you new? )
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    10-14-2013 , 07:35 PM
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    Originally Posted by WashUrHandsPlz
    yes.
    Are you new? )
    I might be. Are you new?

    And thanks.
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    10-14-2013 , 07:40 PM
    Another quick hand I butchered.
    PF is this always a call with my stack? One guy whose game I respect told me no fold monkey what are you doing.

    Well I called. Now that I did. Easy turn fold? Or is this shove good? I guess he is never putting me on a made flush? Can't he be betting KcQx? or something like that? Looking at this he is never folding. Ugh I suck.


    Merge No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 40/80 Blinds (9 handed) - Merge Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

    BB (t4,800)
    UTG (t5,000)
    Hero (UTG+1) (t3,870)
    MP1 (t5,420)
    MP2 (t5,080)
    MP3 (t5,000)
    CO (t3,840)
    Button (t4,832)
    SB (t5,650)

    Hero's M: 32.25

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 6, A
    UTG raises t160, Hero calls t160, 4 folds, Button calls t160, 2 folds

    Flop: (t600) 4, 2, A (3 players)
    UTG bets t450, Hero calls t450, 1 fold

    Turn: (t1,500) K (2 players)
    UTG bets t875, Hero raises t3,260 (All-In), UTG calls t2,385

    River: (t8,020) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: t8,020

    Spoiler:

    UTG had A, Q (one pair, Aces).
    Hero had 6, A (one pair, Aces).
    Outcome: UTG won t8,020
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    10-14-2013 , 08:13 PM
    Yeah its a fold, esp if you play that way. its tough to play drawy hands utg1 to utg pre raise.
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    10-16-2013 , 12:44 AM
    holy ****ing fold
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    10-16-2013 , 04:57 AM
    Fold pre, probably even fold flop, definitely fold turn.
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    10-16-2013 , 06:44 AM
    4th hand of Big33 so readless. Both villains are one tabling. Opener flatted a raise and raised c-bet (875r board) and took it down in previous hand.

    Raise obv looks very strong, but I don't really see either villain folding Q or good draw otf. Might still be better to flat and let them do something stupid?


      Poker Stars, $30 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #20023371

      MP2: 3,030 (151.5 bb)
      MP3: 2,970 (148.5 bb)
      Hero (CO): 2,970 (148.5 bb)
      BTN: 2,970 (148.5 bb)
      SB: 3,030 (151.5 bb)
      BB: 3,000 (150 bb)
      UTG+1: 3,000 (150 bb)
      UTG+2: 2,820 (141 bb)
      MP1: 3,210 (160.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
      2 folds, MP1 raises to 70, 2 folds, Hero calls 70, 2 folds, BB calls 50

      Flop: (220) Q 3 J (3 players)
      BB bets 60, MP1 raises to 220

      Spoiler:
      Results: 340 pot
      Final Board: Q 3 J
      BB mucked and lost (-130 net)
      MP1 mucked and lost (-130 net)



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      10-16-2013 , 07:49 AM
      I think just raise now against one tabling villains this deep.
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      10-16-2013 , 07:13 PM
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      Originally Posted by Turbulenc3
      I think just raise now against one tabling villains this deep.
      Interesting. Explain the significance of one-tabling here in your view here.

      Regardless, I like a raise against two people betting flop and a drawy board.
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      10-16-2013 , 07:59 PM
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      Originally Posted by bikram
      Interesting. Explain the significance of one-tabling here in your view here.

      Regardless, I like a raise against two people betting flop and a drawy board.
      Unlikely to be regs, thus worse hand readers, get chips in with the nuts when it prob won't telegraph our hand as much as it would to a reg
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      10-16-2013 , 08:06 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Turbulenc3
      Unlikely to be regs, thus worse hand readers, get chips in with the nuts when it prob won't telegraph our hand as much as it would to a reg
      Got it, which is also probably why you played your set of jacks so slow in the $530 hand you posted given competition. Makes sense in the abstract. I can see an angry rec player with AQ trying to convince himself OP must always have a FD here and hang himself more often.

      But I think this deep and against two opponents showing strength, you can really never go wrong with a raise.
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      10-16-2013 , 08:10 PM
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      Originally Posted by Turbulenc3
      Unlikely to be regs, thus worse hand readers, get chips in with the nuts when it prob won't telegraph our hand as much as it would to a reg
      Any sense that people multi-tabling might be a little bit more patient too in finding the right spot because they can find more action, better spots at other tables?

      I don't endorse that as a rational way of thinking but I do think that multi-tabling can discipline someone a little bit.

      It's like when you have a HU cash specialist playing a MTT and he forces the action too much because he's used to playing so many hands.
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      10-17-2013 , 10:29 AM
      3bet pre
      now its so hard for us to have sets def 3bet flop esp with that block lead from bb.
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