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Old 02-08-2012, 01:40 AM   #16
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pre fine
flop fine
turn i kinda like a bet
call river
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:53 AM   #17
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

I'd bet more on flop since you're likely ahead and I wouldn't expect a small bet to induce a bluff c/r. I don't like betting turn since he has 910/10J a decent amount, and it's unlikely to get value from worse. Would probably bet most rivers if he checked then.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:13 AM   #18
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

Why do u all call river
Bcs a few of the peopele in call camp dont suck at poker i want to know it
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:45 AM   #19
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

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Why do u all call river
Bcs a few of the peopele in call camp dont suck at poker i want to know it
first of all villian limping pre looks kinda fishy + he's a losing player.

We're only beat by Jx and I don't see too many of those.
he may have J7s,J8s and it's not even sure he'd limp those and call twice.

I dont rly think he limp/c JJ pre and c/c all the way and I think he'd c/r J9 ott a lot.

don't think he'd c/c otf and ott with QJ,KJ etc. and if we put that into his range we have to put any kind of stupid hand in here which could've made 2p or w/e.

that leaves him with lots of 6x combos himself, like 76,86,56,66 which we would chop with.
He can also have T9,T8s,89 etc. and stumpled into two pair which he is betting now, cause he thinks they're good (after all he's prob a fish).

I've also seen fish go crazy and bet a hand like A7 on this board, or other random spew, so I think all in all it's a cawl
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:49 AM   #20
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

b/f turn for value with the plan to bluffshove most rivers. if he calls turn his range is pretty weak so unless the river hits his range alot he will never call.
call river as played. you haz a straight
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:53 AM   #21
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

ty for all your replies, so the majority tend to a call otr..
at the moment i was thinking that the vilain was loose passif because of his limp call pre, so when he call me twice, i put him on a lot of pair + draw combos or 2 over + draw.. so when he donk the river i see a lot of jacks in his range because i had a 6 so there is less combos with a 6 in his range and also does a loose passif fish lead here with no jacks? I assume it is possible but have the feeling it is unusual..

so ty all
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:40 PM   #22
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

he limped pre, doubt he has JJ, i'd bet he has JT and J8 more often than JJ. Snap river off as it is pretty obvious not as much of his range got there in comparison to show down hands he will obviously turn into a bluff or maybe even a thin value bet. Also he is plenty likely to have 66, 56s, 67s, etc....
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:41 PM   #23
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vs a reg I bet turn...vs a random I like checking as I doubt they fold any of their flop value range...

river is close but I think I call and chop with 9 10 a bunch
There isn't a straight on board. I think we call and win a lot
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