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02-07-2012, 09:26 AM
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stranger
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 12
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Obvious fold in 11r?
11r pks
Vilain just sit at the table, so no stats, but he is a loosing player..
Obvious fold?
Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11810822
Hero (BTN): 7,385 (49.2 bb)
SB: 4,965 (33.1 bb)
BB: 6,470 (43.1 bb)
UTG+1: 8,053 (53.7 bb)
UTG+2: 10,317 (68.8 bb)
MP1: 9,015 (60.1 bb)
MP2: 1,860 (12.4 bb)
MP3: 15,673 (104.5 bb)
CO: 6,800 (45.3 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8  6 
4 folds, MP3 calls 150, CO folds, Hero raises to 450, 2 folds, MP3 calls 300
Flop: (1,125) 7  5  8 (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets 600, MP3 calls 600
Turn: (2,325) T (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets 1,200, MP3 calls 1,200
River: (4,725) 9 (2 players)
MP3 bets 2,850, Hero folds
Results: 4,725 pot
Final Board: 7  5  8  T  9
Hero mucked 8  6  and lost (-2,250 net)
MP3 mucked and won 4,725 (2,475 net)
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02-07-2012, 10:07 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Wroclaw
Posts: 667
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
check turn
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02-07-2012, 10:12 AM
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adept
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 926
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
i think betting turns is good for several reasons but 90% of regs will check here wich is bad
same goes for river where u mad a sick fold that i rlly like in a spot where 90% of regs will snapcall
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02-07-2012, 10:59 AM
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 793
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
not rly in love with the 3b pre.
betting turn is good as long as we barrel a bunch of rivers on which we miss.
otr i can only rly see 99 or JJ vb here, otherwise its a bluff, but i dont think there are too many (if any) hands in his range which he can turn into a bluff, so I guess its a close fold.
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02-07-2012, 01:01 PM
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adept
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 934
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
since its rebuy(?) period and we only lose to jj exactly, id say its a call. pre in a 10r id limp behind to keep pot small to be able to play a draw. id check turn behind as well, doubt he will fold to a bet, after c/c otf.
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02-07-2012, 01:43 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 3,142
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
call river
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02-07-2012, 03:50 PM
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adept
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 970
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
dont like the raise pre,just limp in.
a case for checking turn and betting can be made, draws could have got there or it can get him off 2nd pair, prob folding river but its close
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02-07-2012, 04:25 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Michelin City
Posts: 429
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finnera
since its rebuy(?) period and we only lose to jj exactly
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You are overestimating this kind of vilain, he has more Jx combo than JJ only (a losing limp/caller in a 10$ has JXs with 6<=X<=9 in his range there ime).
I'd fold pre as vilain will flat your bet a lot and is probably bad / calling too much so 86s isn't the best hand to take his maney when he limps/calls pre imo.
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02-07-2012, 04:47 PM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 59
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
JJ is the only and you lee to, and since it is still rebuy portion, you have to call.
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02-07-2012, 04:52 PM
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Germany
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
omg i thought op was 3b pre, shame on me.
ok i like the iso pre, flop and turn are fine.
now i think it's a call otr.
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02-07-2012, 05:25 PM
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adept
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 711
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
Check turn, call river.
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02-07-2012, 06:02 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: with the wind at our stern...
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
vs a reg I bet turn...vs a random I like checking as I doubt they fold any of their flop value range...
river is close but I think I call and chop with 9 10 a bunch
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02-07-2012, 08:54 PM
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stranger
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 6
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
I probably check turn and as played call river.
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02-07-2012, 10:36 PM
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#14
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stranger
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 10
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
I think in this spot ch turn is better than betting, and gf on river as played
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02-07-2012, 10:40 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 24
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Re: Obvious fold in 11r?
You should really call this river.
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