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Old 02-07-2012, 09:26 AM   #1
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Obvious fold in 11r?

11r pks

Vilain just sit at the table, so no stats, but he is a loosing player..
Obvious fold?

    Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11810822

    Hero (BTN): 7,385 (49.2 bb)
    SB: 4,965 (33.1 bb)
    BB: 6,470 (43.1 bb)
    UTG+1: 8,053 (53.7 bb)
    UTG+2: 10,317 (68.8 bb)
    MP1: 9,015 (60.1 bb)
    MP2: 1,860 (12.4 bb)
    MP3: 15,673 (104.5 bb)
    CO: 6,800 (45.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 6
    4 folds, MP3 calls 150, CO folds, Hero raises to 450, 2 folds, MP3 calls 300

    Flop: (1,125) 7 5 8 (2 players)
    MP3 checks, Hero bets 600, MP3 calls 600

    Turn: (2,325) T (2 players)
    MP3 checks, Hero bets 1,200, MP3 calls 1,200

    River: (4,725) 9 (2 players)
    MP3 bets 2,850, Hero folds

    Results: 4,725 pot
    Final Board: 7 5 8 T 9
    Hero mucked 8 6 and lost (-2,250 net)
    MP3 mucked and won 4,725 (2,475 net)



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    Old 02-07-2012, 10:07 AM   #2
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    check turn
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    Old 02-07-2012, 10:12 AM   #3
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    i think betting turns is good for several reasons but 90% of regs will check here wich is bad
    same goes for river where u mad a sick fold that i rlly like in a spot where 90% of regs will snapcall
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    Old 02-07-2012, 10:59 AM   #4
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    not rly in love with the 3b pre.

    betting turn is good as long as we barrel a bunch of rivers on which we miss.
    otr i can only rly see 99 or JJ vb here, otherwise its a bluff, but i dont think there are too many (if any) hands in his range which he can turn into a bluff, so I guess its a close fold.
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    Old 02-07-2012, 01:01 PM   #5
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    since its rebuy(?) period and we only lose to jj exactly, id say its a call. pre in a 10r id limp behind to keep pot small to be able to play a draw. id check turn behind as well, doubt he will fold to a bet, after c/c otf.
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    Old 02-07-2012, 01:43 PM   #6
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    call river
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    Old 02-07-2012, 03:50 PM   #7
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    dont like the raise pre,just limp in.


    a case for checking turn and betting can be made, draws could have got there or it can get him off 2nd pair, prob folding river but its close
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    Old 02-07-2012, 04:25 PM   #8
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    Quote:
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    since its rebuy(?) period and we only lose to jj exactly
    You are overestimating this kind of vilain, he has more Jx combo than JJ only (a losing limp/caller in a 10$ has JXs with 6<=X<=9 in his range there ime).

    I'd fold pre as vilain will flat your bet a lot and is probably bad / calling too much so 86s isn't the best hand to take his maney when he limps/calls pre imo.
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    Old 02-07-2012, 04:47 PM   #9
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    JJ is the only and you lee to, and since it is still rebuy portion, you have to call.
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    Old 02-07-2012, 04:52 PM   #10
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    omg i thought op was 3b pre, shame on me.

    ok i like the iso pre, flop and turn are fine.
    now i think it's a call otr.
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    Old 02-07-2012, 05:25 PM   #11
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    Check turn, call river.
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    Old 02-07-2012, 06:02 PM   #12
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    vs a reg I bet turn...vs a random I like checking as I doubt they fold any of their flop value range...

    river is close but I think I call and chop with 9 10 a bunch
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    Old 02-07-2012, 08:54 PM   #13
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    I probably check turn and as played call river.
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    Old 02-07-2012, 10:36 PM   #14
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    I think in this spot ch turn is better than betting, and gf on river as played
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    Old 02-07-2012, 10:40 PM   #15
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    Re: Obvious fold in 11r?

    You should really call this river.
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