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Old 08-02-2012, 06:09 PM   #1
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not necesary but sweet imo

sup? villain is a good reg, do you think my line looks like a bluff? i dont think so but i gueess i am wrong. opinions plzz


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    CO: 7,500 (250 bb)
    BTN: 2,485 (82.8 bb)
    SB: 4,925 (164.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): 7,590 (253 bb)
    UTG+2: 7,500 (250 bb)
    MP1: 2,500 (83.3 bb)
    MP2: 7,500 (250 bb)
    MP3: 7,500 (250 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J K
    4 folds, CO raises to 90, 2 folds, Hero calls 60

    Flop: (195) 9 K J (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks

    Turn: (195) 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets 150, Hero raises to 420, CO calls 270

    River: (1,035) T (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets 1,085, Hero raises to 3,410, CO calls 2,325

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    Old 08-02-2012, 06:20 PM   #2
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    Re: not necesary but sweet imo

    From OP's perspective this may look like a reasonable bluff. However, villain has the A so how many hands can you have that would hit and bet like that?

    You can have the flush, but you can also have the straight and play like this on the turn. villain is getting 3:1 on the first c/r with the nut flush draw. And then 5:2 with the nut straight. And whats worse is that villain may think you can do this with the QX where X can be K, T, or even a J/9...
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    Old 08-02-2012, 06:30 PM   #3
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    From OP's perspective this may look like a reasonable bluff. However, villain has the A so how many hands can you have that would hit and bet like that?

    You can have the flush, but you can also have the straight and play like this on the turn. villain is getting 3:1 on the first c/r with the nut flush draw. And then 5:2 with the nut straight. And whats worse is that villain may think you can do this with the QX where X can be K, T, or even a J/9...
    yeah i honestly thought that he was betting flop with Q Xs so ithought he prolly dont have an important blocker.(by important i mean 8 j 10 q a). i mean ofc he is repping at least Q at the river. plz notice that he bet pot on river and i raised 3x..
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    Old 08-03-2012, 02:27 AM   #4
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    lead turn
    at this deepness i b/f river small after ur c/r on turn
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    Old 08-03-2012, 03:39 AM   #5
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    Re: not necesary but sweet imo

    I probably go for check-call all sts on this board, def not raising this turn and river
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    Old 08-03-2012, 06:18 AM   #6
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    Re: not necesary but sweet imo

    Obv your plan was to ch/r flop, so after he checks back I really think we should lead turn.. If he calls turnbet I b/f river.
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    Old 08-03-2012, 06:47 AM   #7
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    Re: not necesary but sweet imo

    bet flop
    b/f turn
    c/f river

    yes, looks bluffy
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    Old 08-03-2012, 08:45 AM   #8
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    Re: not necesary but sweet imo

    fold pre
    bet flop
    bet turn
    c/f river
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    Old 08-03-2012, 10:09 AM   #9
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    Call pre
    C/r flop... since that backfired
    Bet turn
    B/f small on river
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    Old 08-03-2012, 10:21 AM   #10
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    Re: not necesary but sweet imo

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    fold pre
    lmao
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    Old 08-03-2012, 10:34 AM   #11
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    yeah i honestly thought that he was betting flop with Q Xs so ithought he prolly dont have an important blocker.(by important i mean 8 j 10 q a). i mean ofc he is repping at least Q at the river. plz notice that he bet pot on river and i raised 3x..
    how have you came to a conclusion he doesnt bet flop with no spades?

    think he sooner would check AsQx back
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    lmao
    would fold pre vs confirmed nits or just very good regs
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    Old 08-03-2012, 10:56 AM   #13
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    Re: not necesary but sweet imo

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    would fold pre vs confirmed nits or just very good regs
    vs both

    might play it vs weak players, but I doubt that playing KJo OOP 250 BB deep in the early levels is much of a moneymaker, so I'd rather try to minimize variance that early
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    Old 08-03-2012, 11:42 AM   #14
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    Re: not necesary but sweet imo

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    how have you came to a conclusion he doesnt bet flop with no spades?

    think he sooner would check AsQx back
    i think the only hand that have Qx(as he is repping in the river), being x spade ,the only one is Asq. thats why i think he usually will have only this blocker an not the other ones and that encourage me to c/r bluff the river =D

    ofc this is an assumpttion i made
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    Old 08-03-2012, 11:43 AM   #15
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    vs both

    might play it vs weak players, but I doubt that playing KJo OOP 250 BB deep in the early levels is much of a moneymaker, so I'd rather try to minimize variance that early
    i almost never fold pre, his range from that pos is pretty wide
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