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Not as easy as it seems !!! Straight-forward fold? Not as easy as it seems !!! Straight-forward fold?

04-16-2017 , 05:38 AM
Hey everyone,

I came across what seems to be a fairly straightforward hand. But is it really???!!!
These sorts of spots come quite often in tourneys and I am curious to hear how you would play this hand? FYI - I do not have any info on Villains as its the first few hands of a new table, early tourney stages. The question is whether it is a straight forward fold? Would you ever consider calling or re-raising? Would I be better off check calling the flop and not C-betting? And lastly, what kind of hands do you put villain on? Why would he would raise here...

Here it goes:

In late position with 65bb I raise A 10
Cutoff just calls with 85bb and bb calls with 64bb.
FLOP comes 4 2 7 bb checks and I c-bet half pot (320).
Cutoff re-raises bit more than 3x my bet (1120), bb folds and I decide to fold as well.

THANKS
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04-17-2017 , 05:04 AM
CO raise has to be given a bit more credit than usual with BB still involved. Also you're OOP so I'd just give this up. You might want to float with backdoor flush draws but that's something that should probably be saved for when you're in position.
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04-17-2017 , 09:15 AM
Fairly straightforward. Against two players I usually cbet. You could have the best hand and both can have missed with no PP.

If you think about it there is about a 12% chance either player has a PP (maybe a bit more because they both called a pf raise) and of the other 88% of the time, each player has a 1/3 chance of hitting the flop, so 4/9 of the remaining 88% they both miss. So close to 40% of the time they both miss. Given you are betting 1/2 pot you should show a profit on your cbet (assuming CO doesn't float). But its close. If both players had position I might just give up.

Given the CO raise, there is no reason to call. The board is rainbow with only limited straight draw for a CO raise (65s and maybe 53s). Maybe A5s/A3s raise on this board just for the fun of it, but I wouldn't expect that. Similarly, I would never re-raise unless I had a very specific read and/or much history with the CO.

I don't think I would ever check call. I might check hoping for a check behind. And then bet out most turn cards. And I would never bluff raise unless I had a very specific read that CO was bluffing.
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04-17-2017 , 05:10 PM
He seems like he is capping his range to a lot of one pair hands, it wouldn't make much sense for him to rr that sizing with sets or two pair but being that we have no info on villain we can't assume he is at all competent. In this situation definitely just folding on this board texture.
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04-18-2017 , 03:27 PM
Thanks for your reply's everyone ! Looks like most of you agree the ''better'' option would be C-bet folding
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04-19-2017 , 02:34 PM
yeah this board favors BB's range much more than yours or CO's, but I still c-bet it as there are a lot of possibilities to double and triple barrel on later streets. After CO raises though it's a pretty easy fold.
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04-21-2017 , 07:40 AM
Cbet less
Looks more value-y on a ragged flop
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