$190 rebuy/add on tourney with a 50k guarantee, 30 min levels. 113 players. 14 get paid. There are like 25 players left.

I have 15 bb and have a tight image at the table.

Mp2(35bb): have been playing with him for the last two levels. Had a 5bb stack and ran it up to a 35 bb stack. Has been very active, doubling up a few hands ago with QQ AIPF.

Mp3(25bb): no reads. He just sat at the table. Older guy, seems like a fish

Mp2 raises 2.2 bb
Mp3 flats

Im at the cutoff with K9s, is this a very good spot to shove?

Way too loose vs an open and a call with the BTN, SB and BB all left to act. Try 66+ KQ, AJ+

yeah this isn't the spot im taking

If this was in the sb/bb I would be fine with it, but too many to act behind in the c/o.

bad spot bc you dont have fold eq and you will get looked up and be crushed a lot KQKJ991010AK,AQ.etc etc

In an unopened pot I think it would be a +EV move. What about flatting vs folding here?

How come i dont have fold equity? Its almost half his stack, he cannot call too light here.

I dont like flatting here w 15bb against two opponents

**the table has been playing very tight and most players just want to get in the money. Before i acted the button had his hands on the cards like he was about to fold. Both the SB and BB are tight and have stacks of about 20ish bb, so they cannot call very light, specially because of my table image and the money bubble.

Did you manage to finish in the money?

yep

and ofc you have FE in the CO, but prolly not enough

If you shove, the pot will be close to 22Bb and it will cost 13BB to call. Those are reasonaboe odds! Both villains still have a stack, albeit small, if they call and lose. Mp2 might fold a lot here but mp4 basicLly has to look you up with a lot of holdings.
Added to the fact that you still have players behind, those are actually spots where I'm very tight.

I binked this tourney for 15k!!

If it were a 1500$ tourney i think this move wouldnt go through cause the mp3 flatting range is much tighter. But being a 190$ tourney there are a lot of fish, and mp3 is that typical old guy that likes to see cheap flops with suited cards or maybe small pairs but wont committ for 15bb. So in my mind i really need my shove to get by the original raiser( which has been playing very agressive and wont want to jeopardize his healthy stack near the bubble with a medium strength hand), and the blinds since the button was ready to fold his hand. Plus the blinds cant call that light with 20ish bb stacks.

seems like your trying to justify a bad play just cause it worked. pretty much everyone has said they dont like the play. learn from your mistakes instead of being stubborn. congrats on the win.

In spots like these you don't have to worry about MP3 who just called a raise. He will fold to the shove >95% of the time. In a bigger tourney (more pros and better players) or at an extremely aggressive table then you would have to worry that MP3 has AA/KK/etc. and is trapping. Now you are basically worried about TT/JJ and he gets stubborn.

The problem is MP2. You say he is active but you should probably construct a range for him and then decide what % he is calling your shove. You are shoving for < 50% of his chips - he would have 20 bb's if he calls and loses. He is getting like 3:2 on the shove and the problem is that he has many hands that have you dominated that he probably calls with (like A9s, KQ, KJs, KTs, 99, AK, etc.). There are probably very few hands that he folds that are ahead of you - unless he is raising Ax...

I wouldn't do it. Too many times he calls and you are knocked out. Not to mention somebody behind you waking up with QQ+/AK. This is slightly offset by your tight image.

Finally someone that makes sense although i disagree with some hands that mp2 will call my shove. He certainly wont commit with A9, KJ, KQ, K10, A10, AJ for the same fear of being dominated by my tight range. Its a pretty close spot though and i understand folding as a solid option, specially since if i get called im in terrible shape. But if it gets through i increase my stack by like 50% without showdown.

Nice!!!

It's a fold. Too much action with small stacks behind. Unless you have a really good read on 'em, I'd fold it too.