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01-19-2017 , 12:22 PM
PokerStars - 50/100 Ante 10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 73.29 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP+1: 78.44 BB (VPIP: 17.49, PFR: 13.63, 3Bet Preflop: 4.40, Hands: 451)
CO: 47.6 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: 84.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (SB): 205.3 BB
BB: 74.7 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
UTG: 93.15 BB (VPIP: 14.43, PFR: 10.75, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 99)
UTG+1: 80.16 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7.8 BB, 3 players) 3 7 9
Hero bets 6 BB, fold, BTN calls 6 BB

Turn: (19.8 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 9.9 BB, BTN calls 9.9 BB

River: (39.6 BB, 2 players) 4
HERO??

Basically no infos but the caller seems to be on the fishy side. Most interesting part to me is the river, though I'd like to know how you would go on in all the streets. Thanks!
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01-19-2017 , 12:48 PM
Pre is fine, I'd c/r flop, having led flop lead bigger on the turn, having gone half pot on the turn probably bet/fold river
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01-19-2017 , 01:22 PM
Aren't we pot committed betting about half pot river? BTW thank you
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01-19-2017 , 04:27 PM
pre is fine, check/raise flop, bet bigger on turn, check/call river
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01-19-2017 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2pairsof2s
pre is fine, check/raise flop, bet bigger on turn, check/call river
Aren't we, checkin' flop, giving a dangerous free card on that board? Thanks.
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01-19-2017 , 09:46 PM
I do prefer x/r the flop, bet turn bigger and bet/fold river because he has more vale than bluffs in the river. As played, bet bigger turn or x/r turn would also be fancy because i think villain will try to steal the pot with almost all the draws.
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01-20-2017 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by steinerbest
Aren't we pot committed betting about half pot river? BTW thank you
I don't think so because we look very unlikely to fold and the value he jams is almost always a flush.

Point of checking flop is that original raiser mostly bets stuff that he calls flop with, it would be unusual for the OR to check and raise button which also means the button is quite likely to stab.

And you're welcome
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01-20-2017 , 10:52 AM
I think we might check-shove the turn, the Q hits his range quite often and I think he will bet his fd / some bluffs as you are under repping your hand by checking there, as your sets and Q would want to bet on such wet board. It's quite risky play though, we are making ourselves vulnerable by letting him get a free card.

The way it's played, you should bet half pot/fold otr as from his perspective you also might have flush, so bluff from his side here is very, very unlikely scenario and if he sticks it in, he will most likely have it.
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01-20-2017 , 11:38 AM
Ok. The purpose of my line was 1) to avoid giving free cards 2) and, once he called the 2 leads, to put him on the only (IMO) sensed range, which means every kind of flush. That's why I x/fold river.
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01-20-2017 , 02:01 PM
I don't think it's that bad to lead otf as long as you are doing it with draws as well for the sake of balance and being harder to exploit. So if we try to look the hand from his point of view, you are leading the flop for 6 blinds into 7.8 for 2 main reasons, either to extract value/protect hand, either to make a semi-bluff with the draw. He calls, which narrows his range to FD, 9x, rarely 2 over cards (some KQ, AQ, AJ, QJ combos with one club), over pair (although he is suppose to raise your flop bet with that, so I'm not really bothered with it, but still might be) and I exclude 2 pairs and set combos as he is very likely to raise on such wet texture. You bet the Q on the turn and he calls, his range remains virtually the same, when the 4 comes on the river and IF you bet, in his eyes, you still have either 2 pairs, set or hit your flush and for him raising without a flush would not be an option cus he will have to gamble which one you have, AND it's somewhat more likely for you take your foot of the pedal if you sets and 2 pairs, so by betting 1/2 pot you are representing only flush which would make him fold if he doesn't have it. By checking though (this highly depends on the player and his level of concentration) he might conclude you are backing off and make good bluff. Either way, I don't mind your play at all as you are deep stacked and can wait for better spots. wp
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01-20-2017 , 03:00 PM
As played I think we need to bet bigger OTT. Your bet sizing there looks a bit weak considering the size of your flop bet. Bet/fold river 1/2 pot is about right.

I also don't mind the c/r flop and/or turn.
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01-20-2017 , 09:05 PM
Thank you for your deep analysis!
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01-20-2017 , 09:38 PM
C/r flop, the board isn't very coordinated, OR is gonna cbet sometimes, and sometimes BTN will stab if there is no cbet, all in all, you'll face a bet pretty often. As played bigger ott 13bb is fine, and bet 60 % river, prolly fold to a shove.
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