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11-30-2015 , 02:08 PM
Merge - $100.00+$10.00|<> NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 19,770 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP+2: 20,485 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 14,850 (VPIP: 24.73, PFR: 15.56, 3Bet Preflop: 21.21, Hands: 95)
BTN: 18,529 (VPIP: 27.50, PFR: 18.35, 3Bet Preflop: 7.46, Hands: 161)
SB: 8,324 (VPIP: 27.48, PFR: 14.96, 3Bet Preflop: 5.04, Hands: 651)
BB: 34,076 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
Hero (UTG): 43,560
UTG+1: 17,225 (VPIP: 17.91, PFR: 0.75, 3Bet Preflop: 1.82, Hands: 135)
MP: 23,156 (VPIP: 20.61, PFR: 16.15, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 131)

9 players post ante of 25, SB posts SB 125, BB posts BB 250

Pre Flop: (pot: 600) Hero has A K

Hero raises to 550, fold, MP calls 550, fold, MP+2 raises to 1,950, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1,400, MP calls 1,400

Flop: (6,450, 3 players) K Q 6
Hero checks, MP checks, MP+2 bets 2,150, Hero calls 2,150, fold

Turn: (10,750, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, MP+2 bets 4,550, Hero folds

he's barreling worst turn card in deck for him on board that hits both of us super hard, my fold is fine in a vacuum right?

he is a "good reg"
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11-30-2015 , 02:28 PM
Something about this hand feels really off to me. His cbet sizing on flop seems small on a board that smashes both players range and the sizing also makes his hand more of a 2.5street hand which just seems awkward. Theres one combo of KK and that would 100% check turn (or should I think), other than that I can't see many value hands that really benefit from this line. You should have nutted hands in your range so him treating this board as if he has a huge range advantage doesn't make much sense to me. Looks like a nuts or air spot from what I can tell. Would expect villain to show up with boat/quads/maybe the 3 combos of AA or AXhh/AXnofd. Indeed a tough spot.

Last edited by squintster; 11-30-2015 at 02:39 PM.
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11-30-2015 , 03:04 PM
Another hand I might add into his range would be KJo, I think it works best as a squeeze and if he bets for value this thinly than he'd have to use this small sizing so could make sense.
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11-30-2015 , 04:43 PM
So few value hands and so many gross rivers... Doesn't seem too bad

Is this really not a 109 anymore?
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11-30-2015 , 05:57 PM
I'd click call one more time I think. Idk what villain expects us to flat pre but our c/c range ott should be perceived as really strong and villain will be giving up river a ton if I had to guess.

Just reps little too narrow for value and can still have some XdXd bluffs (and w/e else) unless v is 3b unbalanced value pre.

Last edited by tboneparte; 11-30-2015 at 06:07 PM.
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11-30-2015 , 08:35 PM
What about just coming over the top pre and shoving when he 3-bets?

Playing A K out of position against a good reg who 3-bets you, sounds pretty tough.

Would it be crazy to come over the top pre, how tight is his 3b range? What can you get him to fold? Is this out of line?

I feel like when he takes the lead pre in position he can make it very difficult for you even if you flop top pair on a dry board, right?
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11-30-2015 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tboneparte
I'd click call one more time I think. Idk what villain expects us to flat pre but our c/c range ott should be perceived as really strong and villain will be giving up river a ton if I had to guess.
Yeah, I'm in this boat for sure. I think villain has plenty of bluffs (not sure any of them have equity) and I think he just has to give up when you peel here. You're bladed often enough that it's going to be tough for him to go 3 streets with any bluff. Kinda sucks check mucking river I guess but it's probably better than folding turn. Not sure by how much tho. Sometimes in poker it's not about winning maximum, but losing the minimum. You seem to have sufficient eq vs his range to call here I believe. Done no actual math work with this hand tho.
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12-01-2015 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Wealth$
What about just coming over the top pre and shoving when he 3-bets?
just flicking in 80bb here?
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12-01-2015 , 02:03 AM
Fold pre
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12-01-2015 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
Fold pre
to be the guy whose thing it is to go around always saying "fold pre", it'd be good if you were right, like, more than half the time
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12-01-2015 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
to be the guy whose thing it is to go around always saying "fold pre", it'd be good if you were right, like, more than half the time
Sorry didn't read. Is it fold river?
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12-01-2015 , 04:32 AM
nh
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12-01-2015 , 05:55 AM
Kinda difficult spot there. Villian can be very polarized there.
I can find a crying fold there.
wp..
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12-01-2015 , 06:28 AM
He does not set up a river jam nor deny odds on a pretty drawy texture. Prolly not giving turn up as fast as the rest here ITT.
Turn is a better card for you than for him.
A) reduces his 2p+ combos
B) makes him a bit more scared to tripple barrel blank rivers.
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12-01-2015 , 07:15 AM
[ ] Worst card in deck.

You're not going to turn w/e you call flop with into a bluff ott, and you're going to fold so many hands that called flop, so it's such an easy b/f for him and he should be barreling all day long.
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12-01-2015 , 07:29 AM
c/c c/c c/c
not taking this line pre and folding Kxx to a 20k stack
que sera if he had some Qx or other miracle. also possible he's leaving something in the tank to jam 1/2 psb otr in the vain hope you're on a JTs, dd draw or in a mood to nit fold AK. just so rare you're behind here blocking AA KK.
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12-01-2015 , 12:00 PM
Probably I call one more time, but folding seems good to me.

KK could bet again, AA should x the turn, AK should x turn also, AQ should check the flop... Dont think he's 3betting to utg with JT so much... depends on how he see you or how aggro he is. So really have no idea what he's doing XD
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12-01-2015 , 12:02 PM
I think this is a 4b/f, or fold to the squeeze pre (depending on who the squeezer is). If he is balanced pre in this spot, there are certainly hands in his 3b range we want folding, and hands that we are ahead of, but also don't really care if he folds them pre, given this dynamic, where we can still have an ext tough time PoF.

As played, cant see folding turn. I think this is a pretty good card for us, vs a balanced squeeze pre range. Would rather fold flop, if at all; where there are a lot of turn cards that put us in a more difficult spot.
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