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18 man on the bubble; i have to gamble here right? 18 man on the bubble; i have to gamble here right?

08-27-2010 , 06:57 AM
Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300.00/t600.00 Blinds - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t5667.00 9.45 BBs
BTN: t5684.00 9.47 BBs
SB: t5816.00 9.69 BBs
Hero (BB): t1875.00 3.12 BBs
UTG: t7958.00 13.26 BBs

Pre Flop: (t900) Hero is BB with 7 8
UTG raises to t7908, 3 folds, Hero calls t1275 all in

Flop: (t4050) A 9 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t4050) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t4050) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

I am by far the smallest Stack and have to double up. Is it ok to call here on the bubble? Im almost pot commited also.
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08-27-2010 , 08:41 AM
Even if you think this guy is shoving ultra-wide, which he probably isn't from UTG (no stats to back this up) you probably need to fold this. Better to move the hand before prior to blinds getting you with a wide range like you're considering here.

*note: long-time lurker putting in my two cents hoping to become an active participant. Cya round.
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08-27-2010 , 08:46 AM
I am torn. You lose about 33% of your equity by folding and are getting 2:1 but this hand is not great. I would have to analyze how big a mistake this is vs the amount of equity you lose to the blind to know for sure. But my my instinct is to call even though I expect to be behind the shover's range.

Either way you are faced with a big -EV decision so you just need to figure out which is less -EV.

zero
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08-27-2010 , 08:57 AM
I suppose you can fold this and call next hand in SB. Hoping you get a better hand and ride along when someone before you shove.
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08-27-2010 , 09:35 AM
I have won many of these still be patient and keeping my head on, in the 5 hands before you hit the blinds again strange things can and often do happen.
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08-27-2010 , 11:25 AM
if u fold it leaves us with 1225 chips (strange no ante showed on HH)
next hand u'll have 875 without SB

assuming that, we dont have fold equity vs any oppoment so i lean towards a call.
we also have to assume the tourney buy-in, villains type and table dynamics so far in order to wonder if "strange things can and often do happen" that often as manhat said

also with SB at 62%:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.886% 36.25% 01.64% 5511263820 249464268.00 { 87o }
Hand 1: 62.114% 60.47% 01.64% 9195067164 249464268.00 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T3s+, 95s+, 85s+, 74s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K2o+, Q5o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o }
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