What is my/your/optimal sizing here at fishy table? thanks


***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (IPoker)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 04, 06:34:59 ET 2014
Table 1500 GTD Double Stack 835521253 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 2: Player2 ( 5940 ) - VPIP: 40, PFR: 5, 3B: 4, AF: 1.4, Hands: 86
Seat 3: Player3 ( 6000 ) - VPIP: 48, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 21
Seat 4: Player4 ( 3877 ) - VPIP: 39, PFR: 17, 3B: 27, AF: 6.0, Hands: 46
Seat 5: Hero ( 7491 ) -
Seat 6: Player6 ( 12399 ) - VPIP: 2, PFR: 1, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 122
Seat 8: Player8 ( 9379 ) - VPIP: 75, PFR: 10, 3B: 13, AF: 1.1, Hands: 20
Seat 9: Player9 ( 5966 ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 4, AF: 1.8, Hands: 98
Seat 10: Player10 ( 4065 ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 1.5, Hands: 3516
Player6 posts small blind [40].
Player8 posts big blind [80].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ As Kh ]
Player9 folds
Player10 folds
Player2 calls [80]
Player3 calls [80]
Player4 calls [80]
Hero raises

450

^

Yeah, at least 5x is prob best here.

Thought there might be more or some differing opinions on pre sizing vs this field but I assume from the lack of response it's just not that interesting.

I do agree that should be big here, especially vs these high vpip low pfr players. At least 5x seems right.


Here's what went down.


***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (IPoker)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 04, 06:34:59 ET 2014
Table 1500 GTD Double Stack 835521253 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 2: Player2 ( 5940 ) - VPIP: 40, PFR: 5, 3B: 4, AF: 1.4, Hands: 86
Seat 3: Player3 ( 6000 ) - VPIP: 48, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 21
Seat 4: Player4 ( 3877 ) - VPIP: 39, PFR: 17, 3B: 27, AF: 6.0, Hands: 46
Seat 5: Hero ( 7491 ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 1.9, Hands: 111994
Seat 6: Player6 ( 12399 ) - VPIP: 2, PFR: 1, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 122
Seat 8: Player8 ( 9379 ) - VPIP: 75, PFR: 10, 3B: 13, AF: 1.1, Hands: 20
Seat 9: Player9 ( 5966 ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 4, AF: 1.8, Hands: 98
Seat 10: Player10 ( 4065 ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 1.5, Hands: 3516
Player6 posts small blind [40].
Player8 posts big blind [80].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ As Kh ]
Player9 folds
Player10 folds
Player2 calls [80]
Player3 calls [80]
Player4 calls [80]
Hero raises [280]
Player6 folds
Player8 raises [720]
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Hero ??

-thoughts?

flatty seems ok

guy is 75/10/13

only after 20 but still proly not giving him std 3b range

280 is awful sizing

yup.. cool thanks.

Can't see any point in a 4bet. Just a call and don't even like that too much.

[converted_hand][hand_history]IPoker, $20 Buy-in (40/80 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 12,399 (155 bb)
BB: 9,379 (117.2 bb)
UTG+2: 5,966 (74.6 bb)
MP1: 4,065 (50.8 bb)
MP2: 5,940 (74.3 bb)
MP3: 6,000 (75 bb)
CO: 3,877 (48.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): 7,491 (93.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
2 folds, MP2 calls 80, MP3 calls 80, CO calls 80, Hero raises to 280, SB folds, BB raises to 800, 3 folds, Hero calls 520

Flop: (1,880) J 5 8 (2 players)
BB bets 1,880, Hero

glai