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Light 4b range ? Light 4b range ?

02-23-2016 , 12:02 AM
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 400/800 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BIG10 $109 on ACR. Running 24/21/11. Recent dynamic saw me 3b/f and iso/f to an ep open from otb, and an ep limp in last couple orbits. Couple other opens getting folds pre. We squeezed an earlier MP open w SB call, and we get folds on 3.2x sizing. we r/f once from EP, and r/c from ep 30bb eff, getting a fold ott after x, x flop.

Can we have a light 4b range here? Feel like we have just enough room to 4b/f (which was the plan here)..Small sample and reads on Villains, but my initial read was OTB had shown he can def be light here, and SB 3b pretty high through the sample.
46 left, 36 pay
Thoughts ?

UTG: 16,205 (VPIP: 23.48, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 6.98, Hands: 118)
UTG+1: 12,543 (VPIP: 16.27, PFR: 12.66, 3Bet Preflop: 9.68, Hands: 167)
MP: 42,457 (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 28.00, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 26)
MP+1: 10,678 (VPIP: 13.21, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 54)
CO: 9,362 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 12.90, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 33)
BTN: 11,771 (VPIP: 9.73, PFR: 4.50, 3Bet Preflop: 2.00, Hands: 118)
SB: 36,852 (VPIP: 14.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 51)
Hero (BB): 33,432

8 players post ante of 75, SB posts SB 400, Hero posts BB 800

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,800) Hero has 8 8

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 1,800, SB raises to 5,999, Hero raises to 10,198,
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02-23-2016 , 12:16 AM
heh. creative. might work
ppl still seem to range cold 4bets as something better than jokers+ and i guess you can lead small at most non-A flops if you have to.
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02-23-2016 , 01:36 AM
This is way better than folding. However, the hand may be strong enough to 4-bet/call or shove with given positions.
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02-23-2016 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by betgo
This is way better than folding. However, the hand may be strong enough to 4-bet/call or shove with given positions.
he 3bets 3.2x, how can it be way better?

Should avoid marginal spots on acr.
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02-23-2016 , 09:14 AM
This is not the type of hand you should 4b/f and I'm not sure if this is a spot to have a 4b/f range with all the money in the pot after you 4b (even chosing a small sizing).
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02-23-2016 , 10:47 AM
Button raise from 13xBB, SB 3-bets to gii against BTN. Either player could be strong. Depends on reads.

I don't think 4-betting as play to gii against BTN and fold to SB is terrible. Just folding or pushing is also possible. Not really a 4-bet bluff, but OP's line is reasonable.
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02-23-2016 , 02:26 PM
I would probably just jam. If i have two sizes of 4bets I'm using like AJo and KK+ Not sure if you want to have any flats here to be honest. Interesting spot to map out.
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02-23-2016 , 10:21 PM
One problem with playing this way is they could both flat call you, or BTN could push, SB flat call and you can't reraise. I would just push, but this line isn't terrible IMO.
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02-24-2016 , 01:27 AM
shove is better than fold but i see perhaps AK only in SB range that would make 4b/f a mistake and i prefer it unless SB is capable of 5! AQ 99 or even worse.
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02-24-2016 , 10:35 PM
they are really snug and should be capable to make us ever interested to tool in this spot but we ofc can click buttons.
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