Hey,

I am quite uncertain about hand that I post down below. The villain is 30/20 after 20 hands. No reads really. Let me know what you think is the correct play against V.




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UTG: 10,549 (131.9 bb)
MP: 10,896 (136.2 bb)
CO: 10,323 (129 bb)
BTN: 7,738 (96.7 bb)
SB: 11,147 (139.3 bb)
Hero (BB): 8,677 (108.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3 4
2 folds, CO raises to 240, BTN calls 240, SB calls 200, Hero calls 160

Flop: (1,008) 3 4 2 (4 players)
SB bets 1,008, Hero raises to 3,256, 2 folds, SB raises to 10,899 and is all-in, Hero calls ?????


Thanks for your input as always

was thinking about wether id rather wanna call sbs pot sized lead but i prefer r/gii, so nh. i guess hes gonna show up with better hands quite a bit but i just dont see a way to avoid going broke if he has it.

vil gonna have A5, 56, 44, 33, 22 that beat us but maybe have flush draws such as A6h or something and 66-88.

Probs callig but like daviid said we will be bat here relatively often but we beat enough of his range to go with it.

That's pretty close but I think you have to make the call. You're getting almost exactly 2:1 on the call and if we give villain a range of A5, sets, 55, AXhh, you're abut 33%. But the odds tip much more in your favor if you add in all the other heart combos he could have given his preflop call in the SB.

Edit: I missed 65, which drops your equity quite a bit. Now all the heart combos make it a very close call. Given how close it actually is, I'd probably fold in the moment.

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I can't work this one out - I think the choice point is on the flop once we raise we're priced to get it in ( I make it closer to 2.5:1) psb into 3 players looks very strong - it's just a case of how many draws get played this way vs made monsters. Given its 6 max there are more players who are taking the aggro lines so I think r/gii is OK. Maybe calling the flop is better tho.

Not sure how you get 2.5:1. Pot is 1008, SB puts in his 10,899 and Hero puts in 3256. So hero has to call about 7600 more into a pot of 15,163. Pretty much exactly 2:1.

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hero is effective stack and only has 5K or so left

****e, I missed that. Now it's a call.

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I would have called this.

Thanks to all of you

When I did the math and gave him the most optimistic range (FD+GS, FD+OESD,sets, two pairs), it is a clear +eV call. However, considering the way he played flop, I think lots of his just FD hands would be c/c or c/r.

So if I give him just 44-22, A5o, 43s, 42s and 32s that leaves me with 28.7% equity. I am having 2.45:1 to call, which means I need 28.9% to call. Extremely marginal.

Looking back now, with how many blockers I have to the hands I beat + the flop lead into 3 ppl, I should have folded to the shove or just called flop and gave up on turn.

Anyway, this is how it played out:

*** FLOP *** [3d 4h 2h]
neganessa756: bets 1008
surda89: raises 2248 to 3256
Ubinho: folds
Poveee: folds
neganessa756: raises 7643 to 10899 and is all-in
surda89: calls 5173 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (2470) returned to neganessa756
*** TURN *** [3d 4h 2h] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [3d 4h 2h Qs] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
neganessa756: shows [2s 2d] (three of a kind, Deuces)
surda89: shows [3s 4d] (two pair, Fours and Threes)
neganessa756 collected 17866 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 17866 | Rake 0
Board [3d 4h 2h Qs Th]
Seat 1: ongggg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: danrose29 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Ubinho folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Poveee (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: neganessa756 (small blind) showed [2s 2d] and won (17866) with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 6: surda89 (big blind) showed [3s 4d] and lost with two pair, Fours and Threes

I think this plays a huge part in the decision process here. Tough to fold top 2 given the close odds you were getting though, but as you said it's marginal