V is bluffing here (line/timing/sizing) on this action and my A8o has significant sdv against his range.

still, i have options as to the best line. he can be semi bluffing a fd, but a sd seems unlikely. i decide to c/c and wait to snap c/c a non-d river for value, but the J isn't the brickiest of bricks.

thoughts on best way to approach this. is c/jam river better than c/c? is c/r turn better than c/c?

Meh mate I think it's a fold pre
Idk later but it seems you know what you're doing.
And no room to crai river, no?

ssmtt

i have a little left to crai. if i'm in front i'm in front and i might as well take the rest right? and possibly it's a bigger oversight than i thought...

yeah ssmtt would be a great place to discuss this hand. not.

You have to call river if you have a solid read on him, it is bad to call and then fold to 2 barrel IMO.

No need to bluff river, its not like V is turning 2 or 3 into a bluff.

$5 is ssmtt. It is not msmtt. It should be posted in the proper forum.

micro MTT is like micro cash. only do things for value, and you can rake big ROI without ever bluffing or catching expensive bluffs.

Wow man follow the rules. Post in ssmtt where TeamToolbelt can mod it.

sorry no. if i post in ssmtt i'll get a bunch of responses like don't ever bluff in ssmtt and i wouldn't call turn then fold river from people that frankly couldn't spot a bluff if it rode through hyde park on a bicycle wearing an i'm bluffing t-shirt, a hat that said fooled you and sang bluffy days are here again through a megaphone.

bluff spots and the best value lines when bluffs are spotted are so rarely discussed in msmtt in any detail. let it fly plz pplz.

Ok so when you find one in a 20$ tournament you can post it here and have a discussion.

you running for mayor?

I love getting freerolled

so you would blatantly disrespect the rules of the forum for your own personal gain? Sounds like you might break other rules in the future. This is a terrible, terrible thing.
Agreed.

there are precedents for ssmtt HHs in msmtt where the stakes are high (large field FTs) or the strat discussion might be useful or applicable at a higher BI. these exceptions have been allowed for as long as any of us have been here.

it's really fun to toss around insults and i'm quite good at that too, but insulting either of you would be like shooting frogs with a bazooka and i'm not going to stoop to that level.

however, if no one is interested just move it to ssmtt where a bunch of micro experts can say fold pre and you'll prove my point.

it's fun derailing discussions, but i was genuinely interested in whether c/c c/c is a better value line with unknown but significant sdv and how the ppl I usually talk with around here would approach a spot. so stick a zero on $5 and come along.

It's not the same playing a $5 or a $50 though. Your excuse is just that, an excuse.

Also I just want to say I really laughed when you said a bunch of micro experts can fold pre and the only person in this thread who said the same thing was EP.

As with HSMTT exceptions will be left at posters discretion but mods will monitor.

This is where I stopped reading.

your avatar is where i stopped reading

fold pre fold turn and fold river

I don't understand how it could be up to the poster to show discretion in these too-low-buyin threads. Sometimes the spot isn't interesting at all, like here. You said you know he's bluffing. So you can call, or you can raise. You basically gave us all of the information we need. Raising folds out bluffs and calling catches them. It isn't hard. This thread really should be in the appropriate forum given it's buyin. I bet if you posted it in SSMTT you'd get the same "call or raise" arguments if you tell them the guy was bluffing.

the problem is he can bluff with better hands etc also u cant be really sure he always has a bluff

Obviously too advanced for MSMTT move to HSMTT

fold pre

not just trolling

but also trolling a fair bit

think bbv is more appropriate than ssmtt for this thread fyi