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05-24-2017 , 05:41 AM

WorldResident

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 104

I was just playing a Hyper Turbo tournament. I was involved in a pot with Count_NN who chopped the sunday warmup 3 years ago. I suppose he is a good reg.

How should I approach this huge cbet on the flop? If he really had the K he would never do this right? Is jamming here the best play? What are your thoughts on this? How would you play it and why? Thanks.

Poker Stars, $7.14 Buy-in (30/60 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37735879

BTN: 2,766 (46.1 bb)
SB: 3,585 (59.8 bb)
BB: 5,971 (99.5 bb)
UTG: 3,205 (53.4 bb)
Hero (MP): 2,770 (46.2 bb)
CO: 3,000 (50 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q

UTG folds, Hero raises to 130, 3 folds, BB raises to 360, Hero calls 230

Flop: (840) 7

(2 players)
BB bets 613, Hero folds

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05-24-2017 , 05:50 AM

greedysoul

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Villain 3bet pre so cbet is mandatory for him. You're probably behind all his range so I would pay it the same way. Anyone else?

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05-24-2017 , 06:42 AM

WorldResident

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 104

What do you think his thought process is Greedysoul?

I gave it some more thought. Could it be something like. It is a dry board anyway so if he doesn't have a hand I don't get action anyway. So better make it bigger to stack my opponent.

I am indeed behind vs his range. And he has more(or equal) value hands than bluffs.
Value hands: AK 12 KK 4 AA 4 (87s 3)
Bluffs: Adxd 10 Ahxh 10 (I don't think he would cbet /w Ad4d/Ah7h)

Edit: this bet size gives him a perfect SPR to jam on turn. But still I also think he is more aggressive in hyper turbos

Last edited by WorldResident; 05-24-2017 at 06:48 AM.

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05-24-2017 , 11:23 AM

jjpregler

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Putting myself in the BB's shoes, without reads on you, my 3 bet range here would be about 99+, AQ+ for my value range, My bluff range might be something like KJo/KTo/J8s/T7s and maybe A6s/A7s type hands.

With this board, I would probably c-bet my entire range except for the marginal hands like QQ - 99/A7s, T7s. I would probably c-bet everything else.

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05-24-2017 , 01:42 PM

WorldResident

centurion

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Do you think all those hands in your bluff range could cbet with the size villain did? Don't you think a part of your/his bluffing range would use different sizes?

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05-24-2017 , 02:08 PM

hitchens97

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Pre/Flop all seem completely bog standard, unless we have some super read.

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05-24-2017 , 02:23 PM

jjpregler

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Originally Posted by jjpregler

Quite actually, I would bet smaller with my entire range. On this board, I wouldn't bet 2/3 pot, but maybe that is his standard. It's not ridiculous to think he would go 2/3 with alot or all of his range.

But from a GTO view, the more bluffs in the range, the higher the bet should be.

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05-24-2017 , 03:22 PM

onehandatatime

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I don't think the c bet is all that big. Of course I think villain is probably doing the exact same with his 3 bet value and bluff range, the problem with just calling is what's our plan on future streets if the turn blanks? Even if the Q hits how good do we feel about it? Because you know almost always he's going to double barrel here.

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05-25-2017 , 05:38 AM

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centurion

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So I guess my hands are tied when my opponent does this on such a dry board? It seems like a very good spot so if nobody sees any disadvantages with this play I gonna try it myself.

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05-25-2017 , 08:50 AM

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onehandatatime

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seems like a pretty easy spot for villain to c bet, your range is pretty much capped, I think most decent players would c bet this flop most of the time.

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05-26-2017 , 05:51 AM

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centurion

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Yeah I totally understand the cbet. But the size of his cbet makes me think. Isn't a 33% cbet more profitable.

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05-29-2017 , 12:51 AM

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Snomys27

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Originally Posted by onehandatatime

the problem with just calling is what's our plan on future streets if the turn blanks? Even if the Q hits how good do we feel about it? Because you know almost always he's going to double barrel here.

This.

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