FT

CO was calling a lot of cbets (5/7) and 2 out of 2 when he was in position, then getting passive on turn(21 turn agression frequency) and then beting almost any river (5/7)

cant remember what size he usually used


Are we more inclined to bet Ahigh oop?




Winamax - €27+€3|8000/16000 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 21.66 BB (VPIP: 17.62, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 6.93, Hands: 233)
SB: 73.96 BB (VPIP: 22.37, PFR: 15.07, 3Bet Preflop: 5.65, Hands: 4,313)
BB: 7.67 BB (VPIP: 31.48, PFR: 24.53, 3Bet Preflop: 7.89, Hands: 111)
Hero (UTG): 26.95 BB
CO: 53.5 BB (VPIP: 29.79, PFR: 14.97, 3Bet Preflop: 9.41, Hands: 193)

5 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.13 BB) Hero has 9 A

Hero raises to 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (7.13 BB, 3 players) 6 7 J
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets 7.13 BB, fold, fold,

Whats the point of playing A9s UTG if you're not gonna C-bet that board? I understand that he's called a lot of c-bets in the past. But I think you're letting him have it too easily here and how are you going to know where you stand if you don't bet otf? It's nice and draw heavy so this is a great board to do it on - you can scare away low pairs, sometimes TP, and if he calls then he could be drawing, if he raises then he might have two pair or better. Get some info before you just check the flop and hope that it didn't hit him.

I am check/giving up here. All you have is ace high (slight showdown value) and a backdoor straight draw on a board that is very likely to hit your opponents flatting range. If there was one diamond on the flop, you could argue c betting because there are more turn cards you could continue to fire on the turn than if there is no diamond on the flop. You are more than likely getting called at least once, so I would like to have more backdoors if we are going to c bet this board. Check/giving up here is more than fine.

We play it because it's a strong hand to open with 5 handed, not so that we can just blast away at any board we miss and play any board we hit cautiously. Assign your opponents a flatting range and see how often it hits this board before closing your eyes and blindly firing away.

Both options work I agree - but on this draw heavy board I wouldn't write it off as just blindly firing away. What's more blind is checking. But I get what you mean there is merit in ch/folding here. Perhaps with the Villain this makes this more a close ch/fold.

Both options are complete polar opposites, so how is it possible that they could both work? You almost made my point for me. "On this dry heavy of a board, I wouldn't write it off as blindly firing away." It's like you meant to say "I WOULD write it off as blindly firing away. Saying that there are more draws out there, therefore being more ways our opponents will continue past the flop to our ace high c bet, just furthermore states why checking is best. Why do we want to continue with ace high when our opponents are more than likely to call? I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, but I'm trying.

BB is flatting with a 7bb stack.

Either he is a complete fish, or he is trapping a monster here.

When he flats he has 5.67bb in a 7.13bb pot, when he does not stop n go i expect him to get it all in above your cbet 95% of the time, so another argument for giving up. If you cbet you are priced in to call the bb and you are usually way behind.

Ok, you're right. I see why it's a lot better to check here.

Looks fine, OP.

Seems fine to just c/f. Esp cos of bb having like less than 10bbs

Limp pre.

He can bet you with like any two cards if you are just going to fold and yeah, people will call just to bet any two cards. It's sort of the trend nowadays.

Now you're money invested and either have to call or make a ridiculous reraise or make a bad fold after investing more than an orbit of blinds.

Anyway, I don't know. I just like to limp here pre, and if I get reraised just fold or shove depending on whether I think the guy is raise/calling or rais/folding.

Fine to x/f in this spot

X/f is best given BB situation. But cbetting can also work

agreed c/f, you have much better hands to cbet that can turn equity like Ahx or KQ.

also I don't think bb's flat is bad or that he is necessarily trapping, in fact with a short stack getting good odds he should be more willing to peel.

Why should OP be cbetting that board?

put this hand in the bucket of hands we don't cbet with