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Early Stage 3way KJo BU Early Stage 3way KJo BU

01-18-2017 , 11:16 AM
PokerStars - 40/80 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 74.63 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 18)
BB: 87.5 BB (VPIP: 25.33, PFR: 13.89, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 75)
UTG: 57.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP: 159.61 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
CO: 64.88 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (BTN): 133.85 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J K

fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 3 players) K T K
BB checks, MP bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, BB raises to 14 BB, MP raises to 157.61 BB and is all-in, HERO????

Again, 50 € FO 8max. Just a few hands for MP, seems pretty tight, but this flop is WAY TOO DRY. TT, AK are blocked and unlikely, yet they are the most plausible hands. Any ideas?

Last edited by steinerbest; 01-18-2017 at 11:39 AM.
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01-18-2017 , 02:38 PM
Fold pre,
and fold once mp shoves
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01-19-2017 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Nal
Fold pre,
and fold once mp shoves
So, is calling pre always an error? I thought it could be a good hand that can pot control IP.
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01-19-2017 , 09:45 AM
I like everything. As played, I'd fold now vs that action.
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01-19-2017 , 10:45 AM
I'd rather defend a button with KJ this deep than defend my blinds.
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01-19-2017 , 11:57 PM
fold, but dont forget to berate them in chat. also pre is absolutely fine. given that you are sort of towards the bottom of your value range (value range probably looks sth like 88-JJ, KTs+, KJo+) and you are getting a pretty terrible price it seems to be a relatively easy fold. i guess we shouldn't fold AK if we decide to flat it pre but folding KJ seems reasonable.
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01-20-2017 , 11:01 AM
Thanks everyone! Daviid you're probably right... Yet, In that particular spot, I tanked, called... And found the 3bettor with... AJo, LOL. Pretty lucky, I guess!
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01-20-2017 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gregz41
I like everything. As played, I'd fold now vs that action.
I guess flat is fine, wich i´ll do sometimes (sometimes fold, depends on V obv), but don´t you like a 3bet more, and prob flat KJs (what if we´re in the HJ or CO) ?
Pretty sick spot OP, think folding is the way to go (unless his a muppet )

Last edited by OutPlayU27; 01-20-2017 at 11:59 AM. Reason: proves out it is lol
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01-21-2017 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by OutPlayU27
I guess flat is fine, wich i´ll do sometimes (sometimes fold, depends on V obv), but don´t you like a 3bet more, and prob flat KJs (what if we´re in the HJ or CO) ?
Pretty sick spot OP, think folding is the way to go (unless his a muppet )
No, not really. I'm going to play pots in position liberally with an ante. CO/HJ it would be. Much more reasonable 3bet.
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01-21-2017 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by gregz41
No, not really. I'm going to play pots in position liberally with an ante. CO/HJ it would be. Much more reasonable 3bet.
Agree
My bad i thought there´s no ante

Last edited by OutPlayU27; 01-21-2017 at 10:50 AM. Reason: does things change then?
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01-22-2017 , 10:55 AM
Call of late position raise OTB seems standard.

Don't agree it is a clear fold to push. Why would villain shove like that with a big hand when there are 2 more streets to build the pot on.

Villain's play is lol terrible. If you didn't have notes or stats on him, I would make a note. You don't mention stakes. Is this very low stakes?
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01-22-2017 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by betgo
Call of late position raise OTB seems standard.

Don't agree it is a clear fold to push. Why would villain shove like that with a big hand when there are 2 more streets to build the pot on.

Villain's play is lol terrible. If you didn't have notes or stats on him, I would make a note. You don't mention stakes. Is this very low stakes?
You're right, sorry... 30 € regular Ps.it mtt.
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01-22-2017 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by steinerbest
You're right, sorry... 30 € regular Ps.it mtt.
Call push in .it.
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