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01-17-2015 , 01:42 PM

Canuc42

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 286

Full Tilt, 800/1,600 blinds, 200 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #34209721

BTN: 88,205 (55.1 bb)
SB: 17,998 (11.2 bb)
Hero (BB): 38,231 (23.9 bb)
UTG: 23,582 (14.7 bb)
MP: 34,183 (21.4 bb)
CO: 66,082 (41.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q

UTG folds, MP raises to 3,600, 3 folds, Hero calls 2,000

Flop: (9,200) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets 4,800, Hero raises to 34,431 and is all-in, MP calls 25,583 and is all-in

Turn: (69,966) 5

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (69,966) 6

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

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-opp was playing 20/14 over 50 hands
-this was near the FT also I believe making it that much worse
-how shallow would we need to be to make a x/shove good?
-I will have some semi bluffs here that I want to x/r but this seems way too thin

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01-17-2015 , 03:00 PM

Mrspiky

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 352

Any more shallow than this and you would have to push or fold. Infact the call out of the BB is already questionable.

As played on a flop this dry I just flat, shoving only folds worst hands

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01-17-2015 , 07:03 PM

Dragons_Egg

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,861

flatting pre is better than shoving otf (or at least you should flat more often than you check-shove). If there was a FD onboard then check-shove is likely best.

Though I don't think check-shoving like you did is horrible at 21 BBs effective (it's likely still +EV). One way or the other you should be getting it in (unless maybe an A or K peels), so you should be going broke regardless of your flop action. You'd need a pretty solid read on villain to do something like c/c flop c/f turn.

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Originally Posted by Canuc42

-I will have some semi bluffs here that I want to x/r but this seems way too thin

Your range is unbalanced if the only hands you think you should check-raise here are semi-bluffs.

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01-17-2015 , 07:16 PM

betgo

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Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 28,590

IMO you played it fine, although not the only way, but were unlucky. Preflop is marginal. You have to go with top pair. You also had outs OTF.

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01-18-2015 , 01:27 AM

oldsilver

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,941

defend is optional but ok
c/c flop. what better hands are folding the c/jam? what worse hands are calling? c/c and eval turn.

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