not really related to each other but w/e. same V in both. this is a $215 BI.


Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 30/60 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 9,910
BB: 2,640
UTG: 10,000
UTG+1: 12,300
MP: 9,850
Hero (MP+1): 10,100
MP+2: 9,580 (VPIP: 19.35, PFR: 11.29, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 63)
CO: 10,000 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 16.33, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 99)
BTN: 14,145 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

SB posts SB 30, BB posts BB 60

Pre Flop: (pot: 90) Hero has 7 7

UTG raises to 180, fold, fold, Hero calls 180, fold, fold, BTN calls 180, fold, BB calls 120

Flop: (750, 4 players) 7 T 9
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 515, fold, fold, UTG calls 515

Turn: (1,780, 2 players) 9
UTG checks, Hero bets 1,740, UTG calls 1,740

River: (5,260, 2 players) 4
UTG checks, Hero bets 7,665 and is all-in


we can also overbet turn/pot riv but generally idk how mtt population perceives pre-river overbets and thought they might overfold vs. them so decided to stick with pot ott.



Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 30/60 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 9,880 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 2,280 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: 7,475 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 12,120 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BB: 9,850 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (UTG): 12,445
UTG+1: 9,400 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 12.31, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 66)
MP: 10,820 (VPIP: 27.45, PFR: 15.84, 3Bet Preflop: 6.12, Hands: 102)
MP+1: 14,255 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

SB posts SB 30, BB posts BB 60

Pre Flop: (pot: 90) Hero has 8 9

Hero raises to 180, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 180, BTN calls 180, SB calls 150, fold

Flop: (780, 4 players) 5 7 9
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets 485, fold, Hero calls 485, fold

Turn: (1,750, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (1,750, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BTN bets 1,265, Hero calls 1,265


don't really think ppl stab Ax too much otf 4ways on this texture and don't think Qx is a vbet for him vs. my flop multiway xc range so don't think he reps much here, maybe few combos of ATdd/AJdd.

Pre prob thin in hand 1 but w/e.. sizing post looks vgood, imo

Hand 2, again, pre prob thin but w/e, postflop is interesting, where assuming we do c/c flop, which seems okish, wopuld c/f vs some opponents too, turn and river both seem like spots to lead, esp river, prob ~950ish if we do go c, c turn.
Prob have more to add on this later

i really don't get villains line in hand 1. What's he check calling flop and turn with? AK with Ad? I almost want to min bet the river and hope he spazzes.

In hand 2, Not many people take the donk, check, bet line as a bluff too often.. I definitely think he'd play diamonds this way, and would check back that ace considering it could hit a lot of your floating range. unless he can turn 56 or 78 type hands into a bluff OTR I think it's a fold. FWIW I don't think he ever shows up with an Ace. If he did have AX pair otf he'd barrel turn.

+1

Hand 1: min bet the river would be interesting, but I am still betting pot as OP did.

Hand 2: I do not think that he has Ax either and I actually think it's a great card for you to barrel on. Not really seeing him bluffing the river here too often. Maybe V has some sort of busted straight draw, but it looks like a value bet. Would lean towards folding the river but it's close.

Edit: FWIW, I'd fold pre in hand 2

All this folding pre nonsense is just not right in hand 1 it's a call all day, and with hand 2 if you only raise with strong hands UTG you become much easier to read and thus allowing opponents to steal pots from you when it comes low and coordinated and theyve already pegged you as a tight raiser from UTG, so I'm raising this hand, especially this deep.

Hand 1's bet sizing is good I like the pot sized bet on the turn, and all though I don't mind the over shove on the river I just don't see much calling you here, and that's not saying you should've bet less, I just think he's called you down with a flush draw and missed and is not putting another chip in the pot.

Hand 2 I like the c/c on the flop since it's 4 way and you're hand can't withstand a lot of pressure if you were to bet and get raised or even a bunch of callers, will be difficult to know where you're at in the hand. You can bet the turn as it is unlikely he's bet the flop into 3 people with some kind of Ax hand, and the back door flush draw gives you the chance to call a smallish raise if he does decide to raise you on the turn, as this will build up the pot for you if you do make a very deceptive hand. After he bets the river though I'm folding, only beating a bluff and if you think he's capable, then by all means look him up.

H2 your logic seems decent but prob not calling without some history

Hand 1 is basicly played perfectly, LOL at folding pre.

Hand 2 seems very much like a fold I for sure understand your line of thought but it's just unlikely that villain is bluffing considering the flop went a bazillion ways.

Really? What do you think an utg 3x open range is here? Where are we flatting from? How many players yet to act behind us? How does our postflop relative position stack-up w overcalls? I suppose if we flop our set villain will just slide us ~3k in chips on the majority of flops.

And fwiw, I never said fold pre, said it was thin

yeah, fair

Does jmoney still grind? Favorite player on entire site

how do u know my nickname?

i play cash full time on the US sites and reg some mtts on sundays

still find time to poke around here and argue w/ppl obv

you cannot be jmoney

please tell me thats not the case

idk whats going on

1) gto tryhard. Viable line tho in a nutshell. Im checking This flop behind tho.
2) fine up to river. Prolly folding due to positions/players in hand. In a hu pot between LP players/blinds snapppppcall river.

Checking hand 1 seems on the verge of madness. If I was to check anywhere it would be the turn because I'm not sure we have any 9x. But it probably doesn't matter as much in these positions when compared to others.

God I'm sry I have to stop posting before having at least 1 coffee and being on my cellphone does not help either. I thought we had underpair+gutshot.
Flop bet is obv and I thought we were tripple barrel bluffing vs a overpair that can't call otr

Nonono don't check turn. I like h1 as played with some coffein in the system