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11-29-2015 , 10:52 AM

sunnydunerz

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Poker Stars, $40 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players

BB: 16,773 (41.9 bb)
UTG+1: 6,657 (16.6 bb)
UTG+2: 21,020 (52.6 bb)
MP1: 8,976 (22.4 bb)
MP2: 20,474 (51.2 bb)
MP3: 17,185 (43 bb)
CO: 18,237 (45.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): 17,114 (42.8 bb)
SB: 5,114 (12.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J

6 folds, Hero raises to 800, SB folds, BB calls 400

Flop: (2,250) 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 1,005, BB calls 1,005

Turn: (4,260) T

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 2,100, BB calls 2,100

River: (8,460) K

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 4,000

No significant history with villian except that hes aware of my aggro image. We like?

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11-29-2015 , 10:57 AM

The Dominator

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I like the flop and turn bet but I don't bet this river. I don't see him calling with anything you beat. Would only triple barrel this into the fishiest of stations.

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11-29-2015 , 01:11 PM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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no, we do not like

this line can be V-dependent but generally speaking J8 much too thin and v-betting this thin this will open you up to a world of hurt otr vs. someone competent

A8 might be ok w/dynamic but he can still have all sorts of floats that connect later, mainly broadway bdfd hands that connect with the T, couple ss combos connect with the K

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11-29-2015 , 02:35 PM

gamboneee

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are we ever worried about needing to bluff here? not sure id mind it as that

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11-29-2015 , 03:36 PM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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^pretty sure we have enough 75s, J9, QJ, ss that need to bluff, plus this hand blocks his folding region pretty heavily

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11-29-2015 , 05:11 PM

karnakantis

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Should have checked back the river.
Villain is never calling with anything that we beat and never folding anything better.

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11-29-2015 , 08:59 PM

user12345

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exploitattively its ok.
I just don`t see many people levelled to call 6x- w/ your sizing, but some might overbluff c/jam river.

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11-29-2015 , 08:59 PM

sunnydunerz

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are people missing the fact that its a perfect board to triple barrel? we also have the best hand otr here a very large % of the time imo

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11-30-2015 , 06:23 AM

furo

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Don't like it.

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11-30-2015 , 01:21 PM

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RalphWaldoEmerson

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Originally Posted by sunnydunerz

are people missing the fact that its a perfect board to triple barrel? we also have the best hand otr here a very large % of the time imo

why is it a perfect board to triple barrel? Q or J would be better otr, and obv. a spade would be better.

given you probably check flop a lot w/AK the hands that are semi-bluffs ott that complete otr are mostly KXss hands and there are not so many of those. meanwhile a bunch of str8 draws 75, J9, QJ, all brick out as well as some ss hands. against someone who doesn't hand read well it's prob a fine triple but all things considered this riv card is at best an above average card to bluff and at worst mediocre.

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12-01-2015 , 12:20 AM

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Dragons_Egg

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Hard to see this as a triple barrel hand on that runout against a villain you don't have a significant read/dynamic with.

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12-01-2015 , 02:07 AM

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Peter3041

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don't like it. OTT our hand is actually a pretty good candidate for x/b even though there is value there. River is way too thin without crazy reads.

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12-01-2015 , 02:16 AM

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sunnydunerz

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What river cards apart from spades/8/jack are we vbetting team?

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12-01-2015 , 02:18 AM

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cicakman

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Don't like 4000

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12-01-2015 , 12:21 PM

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ArtanisAce

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Originally Posted by The Dominator

I like the flop and turn bet but I don't bet this river. I don't see him calling with anything you beat. Would only triple barrel this into the fishiest of stations.

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12-01-2015 , 12:59 PM

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'97

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Originally Posted by sunnydunerz

What river cards apart from spades/8/jack are we vbetting team?

6,2,T

As played don't think we can vbet less than QT on this river

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