Hi Guys,

I played a hand on the big blind. Yes the big blind... often get's you into trouble with these marginal spots over and over again...Anyways I just wonder if you think I have a case to call on the riverr with top pair? I made a very quick/straight-forward fold on the river but after thinking about the hand, could he be bluffing? I might be levelling myself but wouldn't he bet a 9 (for a straight draw) or two hearts (for a flush draw) on the flop? If he bets a Q on the turn he wouldn't bet pot river. Nuts or nothing...

Only the 5th hand of the tournament, very early stages meaning I have no reads on villain.

Thanks for your input!

PokerStars - 75/150 Ante 20 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 9,369 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+1: 3,612 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+2: 12,602 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 6,835 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BTN: 4,152 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 10,098 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (BB): 4,542
UTG: 8,856 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG+1: 3,299 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

9 players post ante of 20, SB posts SB 75, Hero posts BB 150

Pre Flop: (pot: 405) Hero has Q 5

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 300, fold, fold, Hero calls 150

Flop: (855, 2 players) J 8 T
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (855, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, CO bets 428, Hero calls 428

River: (1,711, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, CO bets 1,711, fold

CO wins 1,711

after the turn check call your hand is quite transparent; 1 pair or looking to hit 4 to a flush, perhaps occasional bottom end of straight (but 30 bb effective stack I'm guessing you would play a straight more aggressively on that turn). A thinking opponent could certainly take advantage of that with a bluff. on the other hand if he is thinking and knows your range he might make a heavy value bet with aq or qt etc. in hopes for the hero call that you are currently considering.

Without reads, and against random player i doubt he's bluffing 1/3 the time

I understand good odds pf, but offsuited Q-rag is something i cannot play for +ev

Don't play Q-rag off pre flop.

Simple game.

Yeah, Q5o is pretty trash. Suited I don't mind the call.

Post is fine.

Turn already is very close.

Pre is w/e , can't really fold , but depends on how you play postflop.
Agree with @userfish12345, folding turn is best I think , like let's think about his range in this spot ?
Also are you leading anything on this turn ? (I would prob x/c my entire range here, unless I have some really strong reads and wanna exploit )



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Ur really dumb )
You can already discount AK bc hi min-ed pre.
OMG check range AK got there.

J9,T9,98 got there, and yes his gonna have some AK in his range, and some FD´s that got there if his passive, also i want to give him the chance to bluff (by x/c ott i will also wide his range a bit)
So yeah, what are you leading here, on this specific turn you didn´t answer?
I´m x/c an 9x (what does a lead acomplish here, maybe get a call from AhXx?)
I´m saying we should fold turn and feel fine about it w/ our specific hand.
But thx anyway

As others mentioned above, make a better starting hand selection.

dont see anything wrong with pre, seems fairly std. wouldn't rly lead anything on this turn either and start with checking my whole range. if you worry about getting exploited here by having to call turn/fold river a lot, checking your entire range ott will make your life a lot easier cause you will have flushes/straights/2p etc in your range so you dont have to worry about what you want to do with one pair against a psb otr. so yeah as played, it rly comes down to how high up in your range you are otr/wether you have a turnleading range. if you do have a leading range i assume id call some 1pair Qx hands otr that dont block bluffs and Q5o no heart probably falls into that category.

I would fold pre, def with 30bbs. just a 2x on the other hand, so good price. Doesnt rly matter, u called. Could make an argument he is stronger cause of just 2x.

for me the turncall isnt even a slamdunk must call. I think riverplay is fine, sure u could be bluffed, but a lot got there. u could start deffing BB more with nut-potential hands if players feel ur range in BB is wide and weak and cause of that are pounding on u with potsized bets so u earn more the times u hit.

This is a sensible post. Pre flop, I believe call will go better than fold vs a min raise. You lose at -110bb/100 when you fold, but when you call, you will lose at a lower rate.

However, I'm going to have some leads on the turn. On the four to a straight boards out of position, the way I construct ranges in this spot is to bet my 9x, non nut flushes, and then a couple of draws. The way I balance my checking range is to x/c when I have a pair + a straight and my strong flushes. Using pair + straight to x/c means it's a little more likely he is bluffing to begin with. But by doing that, I protect my 2p/Qx type hands.

This exact spot is a little more awkward with the 3 hearts on board already, so some of those pair + straight draws without a heart are more vulnerable. I'm not too sure how I'd adjust my strategy for this board.

Anyway, if we do take that line, we can x/c Qx on the turn and then look to fold river with it and continue with better hands which we will have that I outlined.