many thanks for that JITexpert, if he is jamming ATC like lissi suggested (the other guy is a total nit fish)

then calling with AQo (my actualy hand is ok)

Lolllll at thinking of folding AQ and wasting time creating a thread. Damn greg. I thought you'd have A7 or KJs or something

I was told my call was marginal, was only checking. Even the nit of MSMTT's can see a snap call.

I think it`s mostly bc of positions as someone noted (since you`d have to jam into a big stack).

Otherwise I see reasons to ICM fold AQ there.

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What reasons

Payouts difference.

And it`s not like bigger stack rapes ICM shoving wide from button and you have also good stack and winning flip would allow you to take chip lead.

Even winning this flip you still will be far from being a contender.

would go with AJo+,ATs+,88+
think we can almost discount TT+,AQ+ from his shoving range

I think he`s balanced in shoving ATC being 10bb eff deep.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...k-post-227022/

Here you go!

And AQo is a snippty snap!!!!

Still you say nothing about ICM affection on our decision.
I think this spot is not just about math.

Basically winning this the flip achieves nothing talking about payments & ICM.
We still would have to open-jam in a much bigger stack, who`d call pretty wide and still would be pretty far from shipping it.

And you have 63% only vs 50%+ ranges.

Fully depends on the reg, on dinamic and what he thinks about hero and the other guy.
And i don't think he need to be so much balanced here actually, cuz our shoving range isn't narrower then calling range or you are folding TT if he minraises for example?

lol.... that`s why he can open-jam his whole range. And that`s call balance.

would fold AJ here.

to Elephants_pride
Read it again pls, you got it wrong
I am sure that against the majority of the field it's better to r/c TT+,AQ+ than to openjam