Villain is a pokerstars sponsored, well-known (locally) live pro. I've never played with him and just sat at the table, but from what i have heard he is a typical live clown with terrible fundamentals.

I've been at table one orbit and haven't played a hand yet. Villain has played 2 hands, one where he raised the CO and won the pot preflop and then the next hand where he 3bet the guy on his right before showing AK and announcing that he had AK two hands in a row.

The hand in question is the first hand before break, I'm on the btn with K J, blinds are 400/800 with 50 ante. I have roughly 30K to start the hand and villain covers by a bit.

I raise to 2k, villain calls in the BB, and flop comes:

J 9 5

Villain checks to me and I bet 2.5k into roughly a 4.7k pot. He thinks for a long time, does some soul-reading type stuff and check-raises to 6k. I got the feeling here he was making some kind of sick live pro feeler raise. I felt that i could pretty likely win the hand then and there by shoving but that flatting was probably better. I call.

Turn is T

Villain checks quite quickly. i check back (pot is now around 16k with 22k behind). Should we be thinking about betting here? How would stacks change that?

River is 9

Villain fairly quickly bets 5k into 16k pot. hero ...

Thoughts on all streets please!

I like it and would probably just shrug/call the river. Don't think we should bet turn given stacks and action so far.

seems fine all around...call river now

definitely shrug, then call. Hand seems fine, don't let yourself get confused by "live pros". They're just famous fish

LOLz...

cant ever fold for that river bet and we really cant raise, we haz nice showdown hand....

I call quickly and expect to be shipped the cheddar unless this clown rivered a 3rd 9 or turned a gutterball

i think you played the hand well, call river.

i guess i'm mainly thinking on the river that we don't beat anything in his value range and it seems like a ****ty spot to bluff from his perspective (especially for that sizing) and also less likely to be a bluff given live players' general passivity.

flatting is not better u have 2 streets of value rolled into one i can't see how giving out free cards is a good play here if you think u can take down this pot now by raising then by all means do it coz u have 5 cards to improve and he has more and u got a good pot for having tp2k -- shut that **** down

but what's the point of shoving? if he's doing something spazzy with a hand that we dominate then it's better to keep those hands in because he'll most likely hero fold them when we shove but will put money in with them on later streets. if we're crushed on the flop then we can keep the pot smaller and often avoid going broke by flatting, and if he has some kind of draw i think we'll be able to make good decisions in position on later streets. i guess shoving is a lower variance play but i'm not sure it's the most +EV option. i could definitely be wrong though.

or just call and see if he gives you more chips.

as played, bet the turn. he may have 'raised to see where he was at' with a nine in his hand or like QT or some nonsense and will now call another bet.

Bet/fold turn smallish, check river behind.

you can't bet/fold turn with QJ given that we have top pair with oesd and <1.5x pot.

It's live, of course you can. We don't have an OESD btw.

sigh and call

there's a huge difference between the ev of shoving and the ev of calling...you don't rly want any more cards because you have a huge overlay on your hand strength, as u have 2 streets of value in 1 round for example if it goes c/c, check check, bet call or check bet call then u have the same amount in the middle only you can rly only improve with 5 cards so protection of your hand is +ev...

in other words if this hand ended with checks all the way down you would be pretty stoked about this pot size with TP2K...well ur only going to improve to river 20%...so this is a giant overlay OTF

i shove fairly happily on the flop and expect to win the hand right there (best result) or flip vs his draws...calling is quite bad

perca,

my fault, i confused this with one of the other 20 hands already posted in which hero has QJ.

I think you played the hand pretty perfectly if you call river. He can have worse Js or some Ts that he bets like this on the river.

when everyone says call and unrealzeal says shove, you don't have to respond to him.

think you played it very well assuming you call river. think he has AJ a decent amount but can def have some weird stuff we beat

I think shoving the flop should be considered

We are hating half the deck on the turn - what is our plan when:
- Turn blanks, he bets smallish
- Turn blanks, he shoves
- Turn diamond/8-A, he bets smallish
- Turn diamond/8-A, he shoves ?

I don't hate the way this was played, def call the river blocker