Both have been very active in every category early and knew it was time for a cold 4. Thread title should say 4bet bluff

Merge - $0+$0|<> NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 49.27 BB (VPIP: 21.70, PFR: 16.40, 3Bet Preflop: 7.34, Hands: 320)
MP: 27.07 BB (VPIP: 34.46, PFR: 22.39, 3Bet Preflop: 5.17, Hands: 150)
MP+1: 86.71 BB (VPIP: 48.86, PFR: 26.56, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 132)
CO: 23.98 BB (VPIP: 17.91, PFR: 10.61, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 68)
Hero (BTN): 26.99 BB
SB: 39.19 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 9.17, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 110)
BB: 42.04 BB (VPIP: 27.14, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 71)
UTG: 60.07 BB (VPIP: 11.87, PFR: 10.65, 3Bet Preflop: 8.24, Hands: 221)

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has A J

fold, fold, MP raises to 2 BB, MP+1 raises to 3.83 BB, fold, Hero raises to 6.07 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 4.07 BB, MP+1 calls 2.24 BB

Flop: (20.52 BB, 3 players) 9 2 2
MP checks, MP+1 checks, Hero bets 20.81 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

Hero wins 20.52 BB

shove pre

ya I ship pre. against those players. what does the cold 4 really accomplish when you have 26 bigs and u know there both going to call? i'm not saying you're wrong. i would just never play it like that.

K yeh idk I agree with you guys but figured it could be less variance considering there's not a chance in hell they put me on anything else but a top value range hand.

Too shallow (should be a little bigger of a 4b, 7-8bb). If we were ~32bb+ then 4b/f is aight.

then why did you shove otf super dry?
i mean betting 5bb is the same

Shove pre.
As played, I think small b/f is better as shichibukai pointed out.

Not sure as once we bet we are getting 3-1 to call allin. With this hand we are usually 3-1 against a pair.

[] 5 bet

Fold pre.

Yeah, but it's like barely the odds, and sometimes they have JJ,KK and sets mb. So I think we don't have the odds in the end. We may bet 4.5bb instead of 5 . Anyway, the situation is weird, cause stack was not realy 4b-able pre.

is there a reason your pre sizing is so bad?

This is just bad.. shove pre.

Respect AA, but I think u caught a case of FPS recently..I would stop being worried about being predictable and just jam or fold. Given stats jam seems fine.

Yeah i agree i like a JAM in this spot with such shallow stacks effective