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AA vs flat in squeezed pot AA vs flat in squeezed pot

04-04-2017 , 05:57 AM
We dont have any information on villain all we know is he is breakeven player on abi 4$ over 5k games in last 4 years.

Turn spot feels really awkward we cant really call turn with intention of folding river leaving ourselves 1/3 psb left? Do you just calldown in that spot without any reads hoping villain is overbluffing?


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $20 Buy-in (1,750/3,500 blinds, 550 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
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Hero (SB): 163,724 (46.8 bb)
BB: 67,454 (19.3 bb)
MP1: 152,182 (43.5 bb)
MP2: 201,038 (57.4 bb)
MP3: 455,976 (130.3 bb)
CO: 102,653 (29.3 bb)
BTN: 39,078 (11.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
MP1 raises to 7,000, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 7,000, 2 folds, Hero raises to 28,785, 2 folds, MP3 calls 21,785

Flop: (71,920) 7 Q Q (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets 21,576, Hero calls 21,576

Turn: (115,072) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets 34,522, Hero ???
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04-04-2017 , 07:55 PM
Maybe raise flop. Call turn. Gii on river.
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04-04-2017 , 08:55 PM
Actually, why not cbet flop. Can't be afraid of shadows.
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04-05-2017 , 06:38 PM
cbet flop. c/r flop

By playing the hand the way you did , you have no idea where your at in the hand
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04-06-2017 , 09:32 AM
why on earth would we check raise the flop

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04-06-2017 , 09:36 AM
don't fold
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04-06-2017 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by nomalice
why on earth would we check raise the flop

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+1
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04-06-2017 , 01:33 PM
Fine up to turn
Call some, fold some ott.
Shouldnt be too concerned about being exploited in such spots in $20 tourney but I guess $4 abi player can have a lot weird hands there.

GT wise having As is good
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04-06-2017 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sebeks49
Turn spot feels really awkward we cant really call turn with intention of folding river leaving ourselves 1/3 psb left? Do you just calldown in that spot without any reads hoping villain is overbluffing?
This is never a fold. You should call turn and hope he jams the river. Why are you checking the flop if not to induce a bluff? Your hand looks like AK.
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04-06-2017 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PhatPots
This is never a fold. You should call turn and hope he jams the river. Why are you checking the flop if not to induce a bluff? Your hand looks like AK.
exactly what do you expect to happen when you check the flop ?
Obviously you are giving him an opportunity to take a shot at a decent sized pot
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04-06-2017 , 02:37 PM
Yeh, cbetting is probably better, but the line OP took isn't that bad.

Never fold, and never fold any pp you 3-bet for value here.
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04-07-2017 , 03:53 AM
Hero has 2x pot left in a 3bet pot checking flop seems fine.
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04-07-2017 , 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dereds
Hero has 2x pot left in a 3bet pot checking flop seems fine.
It's OK, but hero's range should be like JJ+/AK and bluffs. Bluffs that didn't make trips would likely cbet the flop representing JJ+. This is an excellent flop for JJ+, which should also cbet unless trapping.
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04-07-2017 , 10:03 AM
I'm not sure a break even player over 5k games with a $4 abi is thinking much about our range but will try to bluff us off the pot a fair bit when we check.
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04-07-2017 , 10:59 AM
Understood, but cbet flop /check turn represents you missed the flop much better. Even against a random, it might be better to take a believable line.
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04-07-2017 , 11:34 AM
If we check back AA on the flop here, what hands are we betting? I kind of think we should be c-betting our entire range here since it really isn't that big to begin with.
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04-07-2017 , 01:10 PM
Bet flop, or raise turn, i dont think villain here is often with 77, qx, and he could easily bet 88,99,10-10, 10-10. By calling You dont know where u are. Betting flop ia the easy way to find where u are

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04-07-2017 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by betgo
Understood, but cbet flop /check turn represents you missed the flop much better.
No it represents Betgo with an overpair who realized he only needs 2 streets to get chips in and being unsure his overpair is any good now.
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04-07-2017 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by user12345
No it represents Betgo with an overpair who realized he only needs 2 streets to get chips in and being unsure his overpair is any good now.
Representing user after a lot of losing sessions. I said gii on this board.
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04-08-2017 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by betgo
Representing user after a lot of losing sessions. I said gii on this board.
im still waiting to hear explaination of the check raise thought

Last edited by nomalice; 04-08-2017 at 05:00 AM. Reason: spelling
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04-10-2017 , 05:31 AM
Opponents range should look a bit like AQ/ suited broadways and mid pocket pairs.

This isn't a slam dunk cbet entire range on the flop spot when MP3 calls open and then calls 3bet. B/B/B ends up being kind of thin, particularly on a turn 7.

That being said, I would x/c down with AA.
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