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08-03-2012, 03:28 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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$75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
i opened the previous hand, got 3b, and folded.
MP guy and SB have reggy-looking stats. BB slightly more passive pre.
so what's the plan? and if anyone says "bet" i'm gonna bitchslap them in the face.
Poker Stars, $69 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
CO: 1,902 (12.7 bb)
BTN: 3,405 (22.7 bb)
SB: 10,295 (68.6 bb)
BB: 5,070 (33.8 bb)
Hero (UTG+1): 3,279 (21.9 bb)
UTG+2: 2,626 (17.5 bb)
MP1: 2,960 (19.7 bb)
MP2: 3,912 (26.1 bb)
MP3: 2,923 (19.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J  J 
Hero raises to 300, 3 folds, MP3 calls 300, 2 folds, SB calls 225, BB calls 150
Flop: (1,380) 6 7 8 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero
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08-03-2012, 03:42 PM
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banned
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
Phosy, reggy stats means low gap between vpip-pfr. What`s the volume?
12/9 like.... ChuckB or 22/18. Seems important, considering so many of them called.
Want to shove flop.
Mp don`t call many 88-66 with that stack, SB can peel pretty wide considering your sizing and caller.
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08-03-2012, 03:59 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: My feeling is you have a small pair
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
bet
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08-03-2012, 04:02 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
No seriously bet. Then decide based on action. 'Reggy stats' could be annoying yes, but a lot of people that play seemingly solid 15/12 or whatever can turn out to be less than great when you get down to it.
Without a better read on him, just bet something mid/smallish and see what happens
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08-03-2012, 04:48 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
bet 678
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08-03-2012, 04:52 PM
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banned
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
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Originally Posted by ssnyc
bet 678
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Don`t we make their ranges wider with a shove at this specific spot or why shoving is bad?
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08-03-2012, 04:56 PM
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banned
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
Just shove the flop. Some tables might ship pre
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08-03-2012, 05:18 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
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Originally Posted by Elephants_pride
Don`t we make their ranges wider with a shove at this specific spot or why shoving is bad?
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I just said bet cause phos said not to say bet and I chose 678 cause the flop was 678
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08-03-2012, 05:22 PM
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veteran
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timetowom
Just shove the flop. Some tables might ship pre
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+1
Even though betting half pot otf sets up a natural shove ott, almost all turn cards are bad for us, so just jam now.
And ya, if table is loose, shove pre.
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08-03-2012, 05:26 PM
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banned
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssnyc
I just said bet cause phos said not to say bet and I chose 678 cause the flop was 678
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Ok. He ninja-edited OP. So I missed it. )
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08-03-2012, 05:27 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
Shoving pre in either daily 75 turbos seems awful. I think youd lose a lot of value.
Last edited by fivetypes; 08-03-2012 at 05:34 PM.
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08-03-2012, 05:30 PM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2011
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
I don't like shipping pre (with no stats against villains), but you can get in pretty safely on this flop. Again depends on villain, but they have a lot of worse hands that call on that flop. Just shove.
If check, you fold most turns.
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08-03-2012, 05:51 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssnyc
I just said bet cause phos said not to say bet and I chose 678 cause the flop was 678
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lmao 
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08-03-2012, 06:41 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
Not sure why we're shoving 2900 into 1300 on the flop or open shoving 21bbs pre? Seems silly in both cases.
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08-03-2012, 08:01 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Re: $75turbo: JJ, multiway, ugly flop
****ty spot where you just have to bet/soulread. Could definitely find folds.
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