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Old 11-07-2010, 05:01 AM   #16
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

1. He can shove worse

2. You have blockers

3. He can be making this play with lots of hands if you have been an active opener and he think you will iso his limp

4. Have seen this too many times with worse hands, without really accurate reads that this is a QQ+ range folding seems -EV

5. Folding 36BB's with AK to a guy you say has FPS with the action given is pretty bad imo

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Old 11-07-2010, 02:38 PM   #17
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

when did MSMTT become SSMTT?
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:19 PM   #18
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

It's a call just because anyone playing $70 MTTs isn't dumb enough to limp shove AA because it's a terrible play. I think you're going to be flipping enough of the time and some of the time you're going to chop with AK (also a terrible play to limp shove AK in most situations). You'll also be up against hands like 67s-910s some portion of the time. For that reason this is a call, but it's not a fist pump.
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:21 PM   #19
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

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i strongly disagree with all of these snap calls. To the point where i wonder if their just dishing bad advice to ruin my game, lol. Can someone give a little more insight was to why they would snap call here?
because we have all seen people show up with worse / random hands when this happens on many occasions.
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:56 PM   #20
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

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It's a call just because anyone playing $70 MTTs isn't dumb enough to limp shove AA because it's a terrible play. I think you're going to be flipping enough of the time and some of the time you're going to chop with AK (also a terrible play to limp shove AK in most situations). You'll also be up against hands like 67s-910s some portion of the time. For that reason this is a call, but it's not a fist pump.
so if you think your flipping/chopping with AK at best why woul you call? lmfao, i think this is a horrible reason to call.
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:47 PM   #21
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

I call, i see this so often and im always amazed at some of the garbage villain will turn over.
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:03 PM   #22
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

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so if you think your flipping/chopping with AK at best why woul you call? lmfao, i think this is a horrible reason to call.
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It's a call just because anyone playing $70 MTTs isn't dumb enough to limp shove AA because it's a terrible play. I think you're going to be flipping enough of the time and some of the time you're going to chop with AK (also a terrible play to limp shove AK in most situations). You'll also be up against hands like 67s-910s some portion of the time. For that reason this is a call, but it's not a fist pump.
Did you miss the bolded when you read it?

I like a call too
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Old 12-08-2010, 03:37 AM   #23
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

Honestly, looking at it. I think he has a marginal hand. Situation is pretty simple. He limped and it folded around to the button. Then you Raised. This could easily be considered a blind steal attempt. I would interpret it this way. Everyone else folded, then it came back to him. He's worried about a showdown so he would rather win the pot right now. If he had AA or KK, he would probably Raise you just a little more or slow play. Combining that with your previous hand or hands, he might think he can push you around. To me it sounds like your racing here. Question is, do you want to race?
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:04 AM   #24
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

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Old 12-08-2010, 05:00 AM   #25
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

i do this play with 55 so i don't have to flip
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Old 12-08-2010, 06:45 AM   #26
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

If villain is a guy that limps often, I'd fold here.
Usual smart trap with monster...

If we have an image of stealing blinds and raising limpers, than I might call, still I'm pretty sure that I'm going to race.

Most of times I belive in first option and fold.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:32 AM   #27
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

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It's a call just because anyone playing $70 MTTs isn't dumb enough to limp shove AA because it's a terrible play. I think you're going to be flipping enough of the time and some of the time you're going to chop with AK (also a terrible play to limp shove AK in most situations). You'll also be up against hands like 67s-910s some portion of the time. For that reason this is a call, but it's not a fist pump.
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:47 PM   #28
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Re: $70k nightly, AK vs UTG limp shove preflop

I would call when he pushes as a little of an overbet. If he made it 1000, I probably fold, because donks tend to play AA/KK that way.
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