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10-31-2016 , 10:51 AM

Nal

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 524

blinds 8k/16k/2k
8 players left, 6 until money.

CO raises to 40k (2nd most active player on the table and decent chip stack)
SB is all in for 95k
Hero in BB with A

Could choose all 3 here i guess, fold, raise isolate, call.
Decided to Call

Flop (300k) : 10

What should hero do here? we're still likely ahead of sb range, so do we stab pot to get rid of CO or do we check down?

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10-31-2016 , 11:40 AM

hitchens97

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Stack sizes?

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10-31-2016 , 12:10 PM

Nal

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 524

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Originally Posted by hitchens97

Stack sizes?

vill - 600kish
hero - 900kish

1 or 2 more stacks around 500k,
rest of stacks round table shorter.

also was preety sure vill would fold flop here alot as he was reluctant to calling the 90k

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10-31-2016 , 05:26 PM

gregz41

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Folding fairly quickly I think with icm pressure.

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11-02-2016 , 04:13 PM

2pairsof2s

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,613

Two off the bubble, looking at a bet and a raise worth 10% of your chips, and a villain in position with enough chips to ruin your chances. Not to mention A-9 off is not a great hand, really. Fold pre.

Maybe he wasn't reluctant about calling the 90k, maybe he was thinking about squeezing you and decided not to. As played C/F flop, get ready to pay off a better Ace if one falls on the turn or river.

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11-04-2016 , 08:19 AM

scheier

grinder

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 527

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Originally Posted by Nal

also was preety sure vill would fold flop here alot as he was reluctant to calling the 90k

Well then you answered your own question.
I wouldn't be that sure though!

I like just giving up preflop at that point in the tournament. And in a vacuum, I still prefer re-raise/fold than just calling with this specific hand (would be different with connectors or something).

As played, I think it makes sense to stab (not more than 1/3 pot), hoping for a fold and hoping to catch up vs the all-in player. If our hope preflop was to find a miraculous flop with that hand that is ahead of both players, I'm not sure I get it. But it is borderline and is kind of a donk-bet, and I expect villain to call at least once a good percentage of the time.

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11-04-2016 , 09:39 AM

zampana1970

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Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 45

What's everyone's thoughts on checking it down and hoping to knock out the all-in? Somewhere along the line I learned that in spots like this there's an unspoken agreement that you want to keep as many players against the all-in to raise chances of the knockout and unless you have a monster you check check check check check check?

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11-04-2016 , 09:49 AM

scheier

grinder

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 527

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Originally Posted by zampana1970

Yes, that's actually valid and I would have probably realised that in the situation itself.
Two things against it though:
- We're not on the "real" bubble, where it's more relevant
- We have close to 40BB, which, at this point of the tournament, must be an above average stack. I think that when you have a big stack close to the bubble in a non-satellite tournament (or even later when in the final table or so), it is actually in your interest to have some very short stacks around, because it makes it much easier to bully the middle or middle-to-low stacks and accumulate chips.

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